AVIC Z1 for an '07
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AVIC Z1 for an '07
I would like to install the Pioneer AVIC Z1 or D2 in an '07 coupe.
1. I've been told by one installer that he will need a day and a half to install.
2. He will need to build a custom kit to accept the Z1 in the dash.
3. He will need to use the OEM stereo because of all the electronics on the '07 and the OEM will be placed in one of the rear compartments.
Opinions please?
Also, he said that the AVIC D2, which is less expensive is not Bluetooth compatible. Anybody have a differing opinion?
In this forum, I've seen D2 and Z1 installations on '05s and '06s and they look great. Is the '07 electronically and physically different?
What is a NAN system?
Thanks in advance for your help.
1. I've been told by one installer that he will need a day and a half to install.
2. He will need to build a custom kit to accept the Z1 in the dash.
3. He will need to use the OEM stereo because of all the electronics on the '07 and the OEM will be placed in one of the rear compartments.
Opinions please?
Also, he said that the AVIC D2, which is less expensive is not Bluetooth compatible. Anybody have a differing opinion?
In this forum, I've seen D2 and Z1 installations on '05s and '06s and they look great. Is the '07 electronically and physically different?
What is a NAN system?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Originally Posted by BC Bob
I would like to install the Pioneer AVIC Z1 or D2 in an '07 coupe.
1. I've been told by one installer that he will need a day and a half to install.
2. He will need to build a custom kit to accept the Z1 in the dash.
3. He will need to use the OEM stereo because of all the electronics on the '07 and the OEM will be placed in one of the rear compartments.
Opinions please?
Also, he said that the AVIC D2, which is less expensive is not Bluetooth compatible. Anybody have a differing opinion?
In this forum, I've seen D2 and Z1 installations on '05s and '06s and they look great. Is the '07 electronically and physically different?
What is a NAN system?
Thanks in advance for your help.
1. I've been told by one installer that he will need a day and a half to install.
2. He will need to build a custom kit to accept the Z1 in the dash.
3. He will need to use the OEM stereo because of all the electronics on the '07 and the OEM will be placed in one of the rear compartments.
Opinions please?
Also, he said that the AVIC D2, which is less expensive is not Bluetooth compatible. Anybody have a differing opinion?
In this forum, I've seen D2 and Z1 installations on '05s and '06s and they look great. Is the '07 electronically and physically different?
What is a NAN system?
Thanks in advance for your help.
As far as the time goes, ok. He's wrong about the dash kit, both Metra & Scoshe make kits. He's misguided about having to stow the radio in the back. Metra and other make a box that will take care of the chimes, Onstar if necessary, etc. He doesn't know the car, not unusual but he needs to take some time and find out the scoop before I'd consider using him.
In the FAQ there's a write-up on an Eclipse unit by Audio Dave (if the link still works) that shows that Metra box that would get the work done.
I don't have experience with the Pioneer units so I can't comment on that bit, sorry.
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BC Bob,
I also plan on installing a Z1. I would like to do it myself. There is several good threads that I have seen on the forum. I am new to the forum so I have not mastered navigating to the different parts. Especially when I see a thread that I want to revisit.
There is a very detailed post with pictures that I was reading yesterday, that I think installed the Eclipse system. That must of been Audio Dave's thread. It is excellent. There is another one that I can't seem to find where the guy put a Pioneer D2 in, I believe. Another excellent source of information.
I am 99% sure the double din unit will fit in the same space.
Also, I am not sure what the installer would do with the OEM electronics.
I also plan on installing a Z1. I would like to do it myself. There is several good threads that I have seen on the forum. I am new to the forum so I have not mastered navigating to the different parts. Especially when I see a thread that I want to revisit.
There is a very detailed post with pictures that I was reading yesterday, that I think installed the Eclipse system. That must of been Audio Dave's thread. It is excellent. There is another one that I can't seem to find where the guy put a Pioneer D2 in, I believe. Another excellent source of information.
I am 99% sure the double din unit will fit in the same space.
Also, I am not sure what the installer would do with the OEM electronics.
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Originally Posted by Oledale
BC Bob,
There is another one that I can't seem to fine where the guy put a Pioneer D2 in, I believe. Another excellent source of information.
There is another one that I can't seem to fine where the guy put a Pioneer D2 in, I believe. Another excellent source of information.
Everything you need to know about the actual install, including mounting kits, databus modules and wiring connections can be found there. It has info about both Bose and non-Bose systems spanning all models of C6.
BC Bob, your installer doesn't seem to know much about the C6 Corvette. If you are set on letting him install your system then perhaps you should show him my write-up to bring him up to speed.
Good Luck.
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I remember an old saying that goes, " knowledge without wisdom is like a stack of books on the back of a donkey."
I would look for another installer, if you have to provide directions, to the installer, you may have other problems. My .0002 cents.
I would look for another installer, if you have to provide directions, to the installer, you may have other problems. My .0002 cents.
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Originally Posted by _Nomad_
You are thinking of my thread.....CLICK HERE (Also found in the C6 FAQ)
Everything you need to know about the actual install, including mounting kits, databus modules and wiring connections can be found there. It has info about both Bose and non-Bose systems spanning all models of C6.
BC Bob, your installer doesn't seem to know much about the C6 Corvette. If you are set on letting him install your system then perhaps you should show him my write-up to bring him up to speed.
Good Luck.
Everything you need to know about the actual install, including mounting kits, databus modules and wiring connections can be found there. It has info about both Bose and non-Bose systems spanning all models of C6.
BC Bob, your installer doesn't seem to know much about the C6 Corvette. If you are set on letting him install your system then perhaps you should show him my write-up to bring him up to speed.
Good Luck.
I read your thread several weeks ago. Great write up and well done. The installer with whom I spoke said that the '07 was more electronically sophisticated than previous models. He mentioned a LAN system that the others years did not have. Are you aware of this?
Also, is the AVIC D2 Bluetooth compatible? I found a site on the web that said I could buy the adapter for the D2, but this installer said the D2 is not compatible.
Thanks for your contributions.
Bob
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BC Bob,
I checked the owners manual on the Pioneer Electronic website, and it makes no mention of bluetooth compatibility. I would say from that, the unit is not compatible. The N2 does not mention bluetooth either, but the Z1 per the manual, is.
I checked the owners manual on the Pioneer Electronic website, and it makes no mention of bluetooth compatibility. I would say from that, the unit is not compatible. The N2 does not mention bluetooth either, but the Z1 per the manual, is.
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Originally Posted by BC Bob
Nomad,
I read your thread several weeks ago. Great write up and well done. The installer with whom I spoke said that the '07 was more electronically sophisticated than previous models. He mentioned a LAN system that the others years did not have. Are you aware of this?
Also, is the AVIC D2 Bluetooth compatible? I found a site on the web that said I could buy the adapter for the D2, but this installer said the D2 is not compatible.
Thanks for your contributions.
Bob
I read your thread several weeks ago. Great write up and well done. The installer with whom I spoke said that the '07 was more electronically sophisticated than previous models. He mentioned a LAN system that the others years did not have. Are you aware of this?
Also, is the AVIC D2 Bluetooth compatible? I found a site on the web that said I could buy the adapter for the D2, but this installer said the D2 is not compatible.
Thanks for your contributions.
Bob
I have worked on a friend's '07 and I cannot see where it is in any way different electronically than my '06.
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...I have worked on a friend's '07 and I cannot see where it is in any way different electronically than my '06.
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Originally Posted by BC Bob
Also, is the AVIC D2 Bluetooth compatible? I found a site on the web that said I could buy the adapter for the D2, but this installer said the D2 is not compatible.
Thanks for your contributions.
Bob
Thanks for your contributions.
Bob
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I am in the same boat with an '07 non bose system. I have had quotes from $500 ($300 labor/$200 wire harness) at Car Toys to Circuit City at $350 for everything. I was told that the '07 vette has relocated the ACC wire so they now have to take apart most of the dash to tap into it. At this point I think I am just going to wait a few months to let the installers practice on someone elses $50k car. It will be hard tho, that Z1 looks great in the vette!
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Originally Posted by wwbill617
Avic Z1 in my 07. No problems and looks and works great.
Bill
Bill
Do you have the Bose system? Are you using Bluetooth, XM and the iPod adapter? If so, did your installer relocate the OEM head unit to another place in the car? Both installers I talked to said that the OEM must be used because of all the integrated electronics it controls with the LAN system. This is really confusing and I may wait a while to see if anyone comes up with a kit for use with the '07.
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Originally Posted by whayes
I did my own install. Nomads directions are great. Take your time and plan the wire placement and routing in advance. It should take an afternoon if your figure out the wiring plan in advance.
Do you have the Bose system? Are you using Bluetooth, XM and the iPod adapter? Did you have to also use the OEM head unit and relocate it to another area within the car? I've talked to two different installers and neither one of them made me feel comfortable. Both want to use the OEM head unit in conjunction with the Z1.
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Originally Posted by BC Bob
You're a much better man than I. I have trouble correctly orienting batteries in a flashlight.
Do you have the Bose system? Are you using Bluetooth, XM and the iPod adapter? Did you have to also use the OEM head unit and relocate it to another area within the car? I've talked to two different installers and neither one of them made me feel comfortable. Both want to use the OEM head unit in conjunction with the Z1.
Do you have the Bose system? Are you using Bluetooth, XM and the iPod adapter? Did you have to also use the OEM head unit and relocate it to another area within the car? I've talked to two different installers and neither one of them made me feel comfortable. Both want to use the OEM head unit in conjunction with the Z1.
Neither of them know what they're talking about, unfortunately. Those peripheral modules along with a chime module would take care of everything you'd need and the OEM head can go on a shelf. If you have to pound an installer on the head, tell him that the Vette is *NOT* the current "Premium Bose" system being used in most other GM vehicles.
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Originally Posted by TheKomoman
Neither of them know what they're talking about, unfortunately. Those peripheral modules along with a chime module would take care of everything you'd need and the OEM head can go on a shelf. If you have to pound an installer on the head, tell him that the Vette is *NOT* the current "Premium Bose" system being used in most other GM vehicles.
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Originally Posted by BC Bob
Thanks. Please tell me about the peripheral modules. What are they? What do they do? Who makes them? TIA.
http://peripheralelectronics.com/pro...563&strSearch=
OnStar® and Class-2 Data-bus Interface for select late model (00-05) GM vehicles with Class-2 radios (i.e. Escalade, H2, Tahoe, etc.) with OnStar® and BOSE® sound systems.
Provides an effortless and seamless head-unit installation into late model GM vehicles while retaining operation of factory features!
Retains complete OnStar® functionality & features OnStar® volume control via steering wheel controls (in
Premium BOSE® system).
Decodes chime signal commands on the Class-2 data-bus and supplies the appropriate warning tone (door ajar, seat belt, low oil pressure, hi-temp., low fuel, etc...) through the OE amplifier, external speaker, or through add-on chime module (GMAHCM).
Provides proper audio integration with either; Premium or Standard
BOSE® sound systems.
Generates 12-volt accessory output & retains RAP function.
Uses genuine Delphi chip for seamless integration.
Provides “Healthy Status” report to the Class-2 system.
Notes: An add-on chime module, GMAHCM, is sometimes needed in conjunction with both, GMAH24 and GMAH24B, to provide chime tones in certain applications and when the factory amp is no longer used. Please consult the application guide on page 25
Provides an effortless and seamless head-unit installation into late model GM vehicles while retaining operation of factory features!
Retains complete OnStar® functionality & features OnStar® volume control via steering wheel controls (in
Premium BOSE® system).
Decodes chime signal commands on the Class-2 data-bus and supplies the appropriate warning tone (door ajar, seat belt, low oil pressure, hi-temp., low fuel, etc...) through the OE amplifier, external speaker, or through add-on chime module (GMAHCM).
Provides proper audio integration with either; Premium or Standard
BOSE® sound systems.
Generates 12-volt accessory output & retains RAP function.
Uses genuine Delphi chip for seamless integration.
Provides “Healthy Status” report to the Class-2 system.
Notes: An add-on chime module, GMAHCM, is sometimes needed in conjunction with both, GMAH24 and GMAH24B, to provide chime tones in certain applications and when the factory amp is no longer used. Please consult the application guide on page 25
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Originally Posted by TheKomoman
Was mentioned by whayes earlier in the thread.
http://peripheralelectronics.com/pro...563&strSearch=
I know it says '05, but our cars are still using the radios of that design and not the newer GMLan stuff. The unit reads the data coming over the serial data bus and translates it into usable signals for aftermarket radios.
http://peripheralelectronics.com/pro...563&strSearch=
I know it says '05, but our cars are still using the radios of that design and not the newer GMLan stuff. The unit reads the data coming over the serial data bus and translates it into usable signals for aftermarket radios.
