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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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First I would like to apologize for my ignorance - in general - not just this issue.

I would like to buy an iPod2car and have been reading all of the posts, including FAQs, but still can't seem to grasp one area of the install.

Install will be in an 04 Vert with the stock single CD head unit. (No changer.) I checked the passenger footwell and found two unused connectors. (One 3 wire and one 4 wire.)

Crutchfield Electronics said I only have one choice and that is to plug into the head unit with the PXHGM4 cable. (They said they don't have anything that will connect to the wiring I discribed in the footwell.)

Most posts here seem to recommend attaching in the passenger footwell using a PXHGM2 cable. Some of the posts mention another cable also, but I can't remember the name. (Bad case of CRS)

Does the PHXGM2 connect direct to the cables in the footwell, or is there still another adapter needed? If the cables in the footwell are the pre-wiring for the changer, will they be pluged in to the head unit? (Even if the car was purchased without the changer?) If I go with the PXHGM4 will there be another connection point on the head unit, or will I unplug the one from the footwell?
(Obviously, I haven't pulled the head unit yet.)

Lastly - are there advantages to one over the other?

Since this is my first post - please have pitty

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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 02:25 AM
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there are 2 ways of doing this. the way you are speaking of, i am unfamiliar with, but others are so i will leave that up to them. I had the peripherals brand ipod2car. i put it in a 2001 z06 without the cd changer. I didnt have to go into the footwell for anything. It was a simple plug and play behind the head unit and did the job fine. you can find a used one for under $150 i believe. new they go for $180 or so.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Thanks for the response.

I think the reason for connecting in the footwell would be for ease of install. (No dissassembly required.) Just want to get my ducks in a row before I buy the wrong cables.

Still looking for input from the rest of the forum experts.

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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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DPG,where did you buy the peripherals brand wiring,I'm intrested in buying one for my 01 z,thanks
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Still looking for some more help to the questions above.
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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One more try,
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Last try.

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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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The PHXGM2 cable is meant to plug into the Cor-Har cable that runs from the footwell to the rear bin where the changer would be mounted. The PHXGM2 plugs into the cable that gets disconnected from the changer.

As you stated, the PHXGM4 gets plugged into the back of the radio. I'm not 100% certain that the cable from the radio to the footwell exists when the changer is not factory installed. If it is, most likely it has to be disconnected so that the PHXGM4 can be plugged into the radio.

You can preview the iPod2Car installation manual here:
http://peripheralelectronics.com/per...tions/PXDP.pdf
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The PHXGM2 cable is meant to plug into the Cor-Har cable that runs from the footwell to the rear bin where the changer would be mounted. The PHXGM2 plugs into the cable that gets disconnected from the changer.

As you stated, the PHXGM4 gets plugged into the back of the radio. I'm not 100% certain that the cable from the radio to the footwell exists when the changer is not factory installed. If it is, most likely it has to be disconnected so that the PHXGM4 can be plugged into the radio.

You can preview the iPod2Car installation manual here:
http://peripheralelectronics.com/per...tions/PXDP.pdf

Yea, i remember hearing that the cor-har whatever that cable is called is there only when you have factory cd changer.

Wicked Z06- i bought my stuff from ipod2car.com
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Thanks for the help.

I ordered the kit with the -4 cable to connect at the head unit and look forward to installing it. (I miss not having a changer and the iPod should turn out to be an even better solution.)

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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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pipes1,

I might be a little late here since it sounds like you've ordered a different harness but...since you've verified that the two AUX "port" plugs are located in the passenger footwell area of YOUR VETTE, all you need to do is purchase the CD-changer harness (COR-HAR) in addition to the iPod2car iPod adapter kit.

No need to pull the factory HU or go anywhere near it. The installation will be very simple if you connect the iPod adapter into the passenger footwell AUX plugs: connect one end of the COR-HAR harness to the two AUX plugs, connect the other end (of the COR-HAR) to another harness called AB-GM10 (but sometimes referred to as a VEHICLE SPECIFIC HARNESS). Then the other end of the AB-GM10 will connect into the iPod adapter box.

You'll need to check with the vendor that you purchase your iPod adapter from as to whether or not the AB-GM10 harness is included with the iPod adapter (I bought my iPod adapter through mp3yourcar.com and it DID come with it; I had to purchase the COR-HAR harness separately for $40.00).

There should also be another cable included with the iPod adapter kit that connects your iPod to the iPod adapter box.

You'll end up with a huge bundle of cables (depending on where you mount your iPod and where you want to hide/stash the iPod adapter box) but there's plenty of room to stash everything in the passenger footwell area including the iPod adapter box...

No need to cut any wires/harnesses or remove the factory HU (not that it is a big deal to remove the factory HU; but if you don't have to, why do it right?! ).

However you go, this is a mod HIGHLY worth doing IMHO

Good luck

Larry
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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Larry

Thanks for the input.

I sent an e-mail to see if I can change my order. If not, it should still be fine. (Just a little more work to install.)

I do appreaciate your response, and the others that replied.

My last Vett was a 77 and that was a long time ago. I am early in the learning curve, on this car, so I was pleased to find the Corvetteforum. (The Vette replaced a Prowler and the Prowler forum was my main information source.)

Thanks again
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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Bob,

You're welcome

What sux about this mod is all the confusion; some of the early C5's (97-00) either did NOT have the prewiring from the factory HU to the passenger footwell area (those two AUX plugs) or only have one and not the second plug

And I think there's some more confusion as to the term: "prewired to the trunk for the factory CD-changer"...meaning, COR-HAR CD-changer harness prewired from the two AUX plugs in the passenger footwell area all the way out to the trunk area.

I think some vendors assume that all C5's are prewired out to the trunk whether or not the vehicle comes with or without the factory CD-changer (so far, I have yet to hear from any forum member that has a C5 prewired for the factory CD-changer that did NOT have the CD-changer installed at the factory). Now if you already have the factory CD-changer in place, then this mod is truely a piece of cake (disconnect CD-changer, connect iPod adapter, route iPod cabling to cockpit, mount iPod someplace near driver, done ).

I believe DPG is correct in that, if your C5 did NOT come with a factory CD-changer (Coupe, Vert, or Z06), then you likely do NOT have the COR-HAR harness installed in your Vette

Again, good luck and let us know how your install turns out (my favorite mod thus far ).

Larry

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Bob,

You're welcome

What sux about this mod is all the confusion; some of the early C5's (97-00) either did NOT have the prewiring from the factory HU to the passenger footwell area (those two AUX plugs) or only have one and not the second plug

And I think there's some more confusion as to the term: "prewired to the trunk for the factory CD-changer"...meaning, COR-HAR CD-changer harness prewired from the two AUX plugs in the passenger footwell area all the way out to the trunk area.

I think some vendors assume that all C5's are prewired out to the trunk whether or not the vehicle comes with or without the factory CD-changer (so far, I have yet to hear from any forum member that has a C5 prewired for the factory CD-changer that did NOT have the CD-changer installed at the factory). Now if you already have the factory CD-changer in place, then this mod is truely a piece of cake (disconnect CD-changer, connect iPod adapter, route iPod cabling to cockpit, mount iPod someplace near driver, done ).

I believe DPG is correct in that, if your C5 did NOT come with a factory CD-changer (Coupe, Vert, or Z06), then you likely do NOT have the COR-HAR harness installed in your Vette

Again, good luck and let us know how your install turns out (my favorite mod thus far ).

Larry

1000% it is all way too confusing. and some diff manufacturers will call their harnesses by diff names as well creating more confusion. Once you get all your stuff, it will be easier to see what you will need next. if you are missing some things, dont freak out and just be patient. Goodluck on your install, we are here almost 24/7 for any help that you may need.
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if the wiring harness is in the trunk ,can anyone tell me where to look for it,is it the same spot in every c5,I have an 01,thanks
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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it should be behind the carpet in the center trunk area i believe. just unscrew the 4 trunk net screws and pull the carpet back. hopefully its there. the wire harness for everything comes from the pass side if you have trouble locating it.
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Hello Pipes 1, you were in the same spot I am now in. Can you give us a follow up as to how everything went, and what way you ended up going. Thank you, great post everyone!!!!
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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OK here is the update.

I got my ipod2car kit from the "never to be named" auction site. The seller is www.carplayer.com and this is an auction name for icarkits. The auction states that everything is included and I was very specific about the information about my equipment, so expected to be up and running in a week.

So much for that idea.

The kit showed up with a GM3 harness that I knew, from the Forum help, wasn't what I needed. It took 6 phone calls, and 3 weeks, to get the GM4 cable. (The tech group seemed to amount to two people and neither had a clue.) They even tried to charge me for it. (After a discussion on false advertising, they decided they would send it without charge.)

Using some other Forum posts, I followed directions for removal of the head unit and all went well.

I ran the ipod cable through the hole behind the ashtray -removed the lighter - and the Nano fits easily in the open area with a little extra cord. Out of sight but readily accessible.

Like many of the other posts have mentioned, the link to the head unit isn't exactly perfect. There have been a few times where the head unit didn't turn on the ipod but not often enough to bother me. (Just open the ashtray cover and start the ipod.)

All in all, I am very happy with the results and thank the Forum posters for all the help.

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thanks for the update. i bet your glad its all together and working
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