Give that man a prize, news just broke that Cisco is suing for the IPhone
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I just bought a Krazr a couple of months ago... pretty cool phone.

I heard on the news that Cisco and Apple have been in negotiations for a few months and have yet to come to an agreement. The way I see it Cisco has Apple buy the short hairs.

 

Cisco's Lawyer' statement:

Today’s announcement from Cisco regarding our suit with Apple over our iPhone trademark has spurred a lot of interesting questions. Most importantly, this is not a suit against Apple’s innovation, their modern design, or their cool phone. It is not a suit about money or royalties. This is a suit about trademark infringement.

Cisco owns the iPhone trademark. We have since 2000, when we bought a company called Infogear Technology, which had developed a product that combined web access and telephone. Infogear’s registrations for the mark date to 1996, before iMacs and iPods were even glimmers in Apple’s eye. We shipped and/or supported that iPhone product for years. We have been shipping new, updated iPhone products since last spring, and had a formal launch late last year. Apple knows this; they approached us about the iPhone trademark as far back as 2001, and have approached us several times over the past year.

For the last few weeks, we have been in serious discussions with Apple over how the two companies could work together and share the iPhone trademark. We genuinely believed that we were going to be able to reach an agreement and Apple’s communications with us suggested they supported that goal. We negotiated in good faith with every intention to reach a reasonable agreement with Apple by which we would share the iPhone brand.

So, I was surprised and disappointed when Apple decided to go ahead and announce their new product with our trademarked name without reaching an agreement. It was essentially the equivalent of “we’re too busy.” Despite being very close to an agreement, we had substantive communications from Apple after 8pm Monday, including after their launch, when we made clear we expected closure. What were the issues at the table that kept us from an agreement? Was it money? No. Was it a royalty on every Apple phone? No. Was it an exchange for Cisco products or services? No.

Fundamentally we wanted an open approach. We hoped our products could interoperate in the future. In our view, the network provides the basis to make this happen—it provides the foundation of innovation that allows converged devices to deliver the services that consumers want. Our goal was to take that to the next level by facilitating collaboration with Apple. And we wanted to make sure to differentiate the brands in a way that could work for both companies and not confuse people, since our products combine both web access and voice telephony. That’s it. Openness and clarity.

At MacWorld, Apple discussed the patents pending on their new phone technology. They clearly seem to value intellectual property. If the tables were turned, do you think Apple would allow someone to blatantly infringe on their rights? How would Apple react if someone launched a product called iPod but claimed it was ok to use the name because it used a different video format? Would that be ok? We know the answer – Apple is a very aggressive enforcer of their trademark rights. And that needs to be a two-way street.

This lawsuit is about Cisco's obligation to protect its trademark in the face of a willful violation. Our goal was collaboration. The action we have taken today is about not using people’s property without permission.

 

I honestly am all about windows. But that defintely looks sexy. I love gadgets and eletronics. I have a 80gig ipod. My question is. Do they have their own service program or is being carried by verizon or one of the other bigger companys?

 

^ Based on Apple's past modus operandi, they will have their own branded service. They have always "gone it alone". Example = iTunes Music Store

 

Good question? I hear that you can buy it at either the apple store or at cingular. I would assume that after you buy the phone and get a contract you would go through cingular as with a lot of other phones. Cingular would just send it back to apple for repairs anyway probably.

 

I would be pretty disapointed if they had their own service program. I really like verizon.

Everyone keeps talking about it not being worth expensive phones because they break them all. But I've realized expensive phones last me four times longer than cheap ones. I've had my phone now for about a year and half . I paid $300 for it and it's perfectly fine. My other phones that I got for free with the contract would of broken several times by now. I've droped this one in the water , on the floor , off a roof , out of the t-tops of my trans am and it's still fine.

 

^ It looks like Cingular now - not an "iApple" cell network

 

aka: AT&T Wireless by the time the iPhone is released by Apple (June ?)

 

Its very expensive, I cant afford it.

 

Yep, who knows how long it will be before they release a CDMA based i(whatever) after cisco gets a piece. I can't stand cingular in my area it blows and those commercials about fewest dropped calls makes me want to pick up an ak and go to the nearest branch.