Upgrade '08 Base System to AVIC-D3
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Upgrade '08 Base System to AVIC-D3
I tried searching for these answers but was unable to find the exact answer, so here goes:
I just bought an 08 coupe with the base (1LT) system and am looking to upgrade to the AVIC-D3. Since the 08 now comes with Onstar and XM, I assume I'll need the GMAH24 to continue using Onstar as well as chimes, correct? Also, is the XM receiver built into the head unit or external, and if external can I reuse it with the new system using some sort of adapter or will I need to buy the XM receiver that is built for the new head unit?
In the end I would like to have the D3 with Onstar, XM, Bluetooth, ipod and the original amp/speaker setup, so if there is anything I need other than the GMAH24 and the dash kit please let me know. (or if I'm even close to getting it right)
I'm sure I didn't explain myself very well here, but thanks in advance to anyone that can help.
I just bought an 08 coupe with the base (1LT) system and am looking to upgrade to the AVIC-D3. Since the 08 now comes with Onstar and XM, I assume I'll need the GMAH24 to continue using Onstar as well as chimes, correct? Also, is the XM receiver built into the head unit or external, and if external can I reuse it with the new system using some sort of adapter or will I need to buy the XM receiver that is built for the new head unit?
In the end I would like to have the D3 with Onstar, XM, Bluetooth, ipod and the original amp/speaker setup, so if there is anything I need other than the GMAH24 and the dash kit please let me know. (or if I'm even close to getting it right)
I'm sure I didn't explain myself very well here, but thanks in advance to anyone that can help.
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St Jude Donor '13
I tried searching for these answers but was unable to find the exact answer, so here goes:
I just bought an 08 coupe with the base (1LT) system and am looking to upgrade to the AVIC-D3. Since the 08 now comes with Onstar and XM, I assume I'll need the GMAH24 to continue using Onstar as well as chimes, correct? Also, is the XM receiver built into the head unit or external, and if external can I reuse it with the new system using some sort of adapter or will I need to buy the XM receiver that is built for the new head unit?
In the end I would like to have the D3 with Onstar, XM, Bluetooth, ipod and the original amp/speaker setup, so if there is anything I need other than the GMAH24 and the dash kit please let me know. (or if I'm even close to getting it right)
I'm sure I didn't explain myself very well here, but thanks in advance to anyone that can help.
I just bought an 08 coupe with the base (1LT) system and am looking to upgrade to the AVIC-D3. Since the 08 now comes with Onstar and XM, I assume I'll need the GMAH24 to continue using Onstar as well as chimes, correct? Also, is the XM receiver built into the head unit or external, and if external can I reuse it with the new system using some sort of adapter or will I need to buy the XM receiver that is built for the new head unit?
In the end I would like to have the D3 with Onstar, XM, Bluetooth, ipod and the original amp/speaker setup, so if there is anything I need other than the GMAH24 and the dash kit please let me know. (or if I'm even close to getting it right)
I'm sure I didn't explain myself very well here, but thanks in advance to anyone that can help.
The XM box from the stock stereo is an outboard unit and you cannot control it with the D3, so you'll have to buy Pio's XM unit. However you can take advantage of the stock install position to use the stock antennas, and there is also +12V and ground in the factory harness. You would need to run the connection wires to the D3 though. On a coupe, the XM unit is above the left rear wheel well under the carpet. You can get at it by just pulling the carpet back.
Good luck!
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You are correct that you would need the GMAH24 to interface with the stereo and continue to use Onstar. But also you will need the GMCHM with that to get chimes. Also ignore Peripheral's instructions to cut the RCA's off their adapter and wire in your head's speaker outputs. Unlike most other non-Bose systems in GM cars, the C6 base system has an amplifier, so plug the RCA output of your D3 into the RCA inputs of the GMAH24.
The XM box from the stock stereo is an outboard unit and you cannot control it with the D3, so you'll have to buy Pio's XM unit. However you can take advantage of the stock install position to use the stock antennas, and there is also +12V and ground in the factory harness. You would need to run the connection wires to the D3 though. On a coupe, the XM unit is above the left rear wheel well under the carpet. You can get at it by just pulling the carpet back.
Good luck!
The XM box from the stock stereo is an outboard unit and you cannot control it with the D3, so you'll have to buy Pio's XM unit. However you can take advantage of the stock install position to use the stock antennas, and there is also +12V and ground in the factory harness. You would need to run the connection wires to the D3 though. On a coupe, the XM unit is above the left rear wheel well under the carpet. You can get at it by just pulling the carpet back.
Good luck!
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TheKomoman,
I'm getting closer to my install and have a question regarding the "plug the RCA outputs of the D3 into the RCA inputs of the GMAH24" advice above. The D3 has both RCA outputs (which appear to be for connecting directly to an amp) and speaker output wires (for connecting directly to speakers), can I assume I need to connect the speaker output wires from the D3 into GMAH24 and not use the RCA wires?
I hope you can weed through my confusing question above.
Thanks!
I'm getting closer to my install and have a question regarding the "plug the RCA outputs of the D3 into the RCA inputs of the GMAH24" advice above. The D3 has both RCA outputs (which appear to be for connecting directly to an amp) and speaker output wires (for connecting directly to speakers), can I assume I need to connect the speaker output wires from the D3 into GMAH24 and not use the RCA wires?
I hope you can weed through my confusing question above.
Thanks!
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St Jude Donor '13
TheKomoman,
I'm getting closer to my install and have a question regarding the "plug the RCA outputs of the D3 into the RCA inputs of the GMAH24" advice above. The D3 has both RCA outputs (which appear to be for connecting directly to an amp) and speaker output wires (for connecting directly to speakers), can I assume I need to connect the speaker output wires from the D3 into GMAH24 and not use the RCA wires?
I hope you can weed through my confusing question above.
Thanks!
I'm getting closer to my install and have a question regarding the "plug the RCA outputs of the D3 into the RCA inputs of the GMAH24" advice above. The D3 has both RCA outputs (which appear to be for connecting directly to an amp) and speaker output wires (for connecting directly to speakers), can I assume I need to connect the speaker output wires from the D3 into GMAH24 and not use the RCA wires?
I hope you can weed through my confusing question above.
Thanks!
Use the RCA's.
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I think I may have a bit of a terminology problem here... So I want to cut the RCA connectors off the D3's RCA wires that are supposed to connect to an amp directly, and connect them to the appropriate speaker wires (RAD-18 harness) on the GMAH24? I apologize for asking so many stupid questions, but I want to make sure I get it right.
Thanks again for your help.
Thanks again for your help.
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St Jude Donor '13
I think I may have a bit of a terminology problem here... So I want to cut the RCA connectors off the D3's RCA wires that are supposed to connect to an amp directly, and connect them to the appropriate speaker wires (RAD-18 harness) on the GMAH24? I apologize for asking so many stupid questions, but I want to make sure I get it right.
Thanks again for your help.
Thanks again for your help.
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St Jude Donor '13
Ideally I'd say to solder on female RCA's... but since you're sticking to the stock amp and going through some sort of a circuit (in the GMAH24) that would step down the signal if it needed to anyway I don't know how much of an audible difference it would make. So for convenience, I guess tie it into the speaker outputs of the AVIC after all.
Sorry again for the circle-jerk there.
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I attempted to connect the speaker wires from the D3 to the speaker wires on the gmah24, got sound but the menu beeps were very loud.
I then soldered male rca connectors to the gmah24 speaker wires and connected them to the female rca jacks on the D3, that got rid of the loud menu beeps, but now I'm getting a loud pop when the acc turns off. I'm assuming this is coming from the amp that is turning off a fraction of a second after the D3. I tried putting a 3.2k ohm resister in the amp trigger line, but the pop has not changed at all. Is there any other thing I can try that will remove the pop on power down? I'm not getting the pop on power up as some have reported.
Any help is appreciated - strangely enough I kind of like the challenge this project is presenting. I must be sick!
I then soldered male rca connectors to the gmah24 speaker wires and connected them to the female rca jacks on the D3, that got rid of the loud menu beeps, but now I'm getting a loud pop when the acc turns off. I'm assuming this is coming from the amp that is turning off a fraction of a second after the D3. I tried putting a 3.2k ohm resister in the amp trigger line, but the pop has not changed at all. Is there any other thing I can try that will remove the pop on power down? I'm not getting the pop on power up as some have reported.
Any help is appreciated - strangely enough I kind of like the challenge this project is presenting. I must be sick!
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I attempted to connect the speaker wires from the D3 to the speaker wires on the gmah24, got sound but the menu beeps were very loud.
I then soldered male rca connectors to the gmah24 speaker wires and connected them to the female rca jacks on the D3, that got rid of the loud menu beeps, but now I'm getting a loud pop when the acc turns off. I'm assuming this is coming from the amp that is turning off a fraction of a second after the D3. I tried putting a 3.2k ohm resister in the amp trigger line, but the pop has not changed at all. Is there any other thing I can try that will remove the pop on power down? I'm not getting the pop on power up as some have reported.
Any help is appreciated - strangely enough I kind of like the challenge this project is presenting. I must be sick!
I then soldered male rca connectors to the gmah24 speaker wires and connected them to the female rca jacks on the D3, that got rid of the loud menu beeps, but now I'm getting a loud pop when the acc turns off. I'm assuming this is coming from the amp that is turning off a fraction of a second after the D3. I tried putting a 3.2k ohm resister in the amp trigger line, but the pop has not changed at all. Is there any other thing I can try that will remove the pop on power down? I'm not getting the pop on power up as some have reported.
Any help is appreciated - strangely enough I kind of like the challenge this project is presenting. I must be sick!
I got rid of the pop by removing the factory amp
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mn08- how exactly did you go about this? I'm having the same problem and don't have rca jacks at all on my harness (im using the 8 standard wires for the speakers). Radio shack said they only have the ground loop isolators that have rca on both ends. Not using the RCA connections for my speakers I assume this does me no good.
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mn08- how exactly did you go about this? I'm having the same problem and don't have rca jacks at all on my harness (im using the 8 standard wires for the speakers). Radio shack said they only have the ground loop isolators that have rca on both ends. Not using the RCA connections for my speakers I assume this does me no good.
I see in another post the ground loop isolators did not solve your problem. It did do the trick for me, but you need to make sure your connections are very solid. I was still getting a slight pop after my first attempt at the rca connectors and after resoldering them and wrapping some electrical tape around the connectors, the pop was gone. Good luck!
