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Old Jan 20, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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Sounds like one of Don's reviews.

Get in contact with him, I doubt you'll get the CDTs cheaper elsewhere...

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Have you checked with him yet? Not only should he be able to beat that price, I think he can get you the updated tweeters too, instead of the DRT25s, (which are some of the worst tweeters I've ever heard, I own a pair.)
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I dont know who your referring to, or how to contact him?
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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I dont know who your referring to, or how to contact him?

btw: how's this amp to power everything? http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=6237
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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google would have brought you to him quickly.

islandsound1@yahoo.com

Audison amps are extremely nice... But what's the point?

PDX will do nicely, or ARC KAR series if you want a little better sound with a bigger footprint.
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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Whats the point? Just trying to accomplish all of the speakers/sub with one amp, b/c as I asked you once before I heard the PDX Amps do have high distortion rate (at least for the comp's?)
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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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Whats the point? Just trying to accomplish all of the speakers/sub with one amp, b/c as I asked you once before I heard the PDX Amps do have high distortion rate (at least for the comp's?)
I could not hear any noticeable distortion from the PDXs, compared to some pretty nice amps. However soundstage suffers a little. If you are running rear speakers anyway, that is NOT something you need to be concerned about.

Arc Audio KS 900.6 is a very nice amp for less than half of that.

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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 12:40 AM
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Why? I was going to buy the Upfront soundstage to help out as well from CDT Audio?
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Why? I was going to buy the Upfront soundstage to help out as well from CDT Audio?
Rear speakers will destroy your ability to have an accurate soundstage, so the "closeness" of sound from the PDX won't be an issue.

And forget about "image tweets" just install the regular tweeters correctly and you won't need anything silly like that.
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What exactly can you do to install them wrong? I'm just curious, b/c I have hired an installer - not doing it myself, do they need more than "angling" (be nice, I'm a complete novice, but really enjoying learning the topic!)
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Just play with locations and aiming until it sounds "right"

in my case, I put mine in the pillars.


CDT crossovers emphasize frequencies over 10k to account for off axis installs, so you might not want them aimed at you.
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So forget the factory locations? I was going to put the regular tweets in that spot, and have the ones from the upfront stage pointing at the windshield...
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So forget the factory locations? I was going to put the regular tweets in that spot, and have the ones from the upfront stage pointing at the windshield...
Yeah, that will sound pretty bad. It will bring the sound up, but it will sound nasty doing it.

I'd probably start by putting them halfway up the pillars aiming directly at each other.
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I thougt everyone uses thr speaker plates / factory locations, with 6.5" comps?
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I thougt everyone uses thr speaker plates / factory locations, with 6.5" comps?
Many do because its the easiest way to do it... Not because its the best way to do it .
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Best way in a car always involves something custom jr, but what is acceptable to YOU has to be determined by your ears.

As for the PDX amps, I have not found the stage to suffer in my truck, and I have a 4.150 making 164w per channel on my 4 Pioneer 720 prs drivers without issue. I also have a kickpanel location which equalizes pathlengths, which IMO is the largest influence on stage in a car, but that is just my 2c.

If you take the time to do a little research on this forum, read through the "what do you run" thread, and audition some speaker sets you will get good results. For MOST (read not all) people, a set of 6.5" components with around 100w to them with aimable tweeters and a single 10-12" sub in the back with around 300w will appease most people and be a huge improvement over the factory blose setup. Pick a HU with the features that you want, pick up a little sound deadening for the doors and rear hatch (and you can do a LOT more in this area if you want) and enjoy it. If you want the next level of listening experience, you are going to need processing or custom built passive crossovers, likely A pillar tweets or a kickpanel setup of some sort, 2 or 3 way in the front stage etc etc etc. I consider myself a 9 out of 10 "audio" guy, and I have come to the realization that without custom DASH rebuilds and other ridiculous amounts of work, the car is only going to be so good, while the house can be setup and dialed in with far less effort and very solid results, even at a much lesser knowledge base.

Eventually, almost all "car audio" guys end up with great home systems and "good" car setups.

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Old Jan 21, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Have you checked with him yet? Not only should he be able to beat that price, I think he can get you the updated tweeters too, instead of the DRT25s, (which are some of the worst tweeters I've ever heard, I own a pair.)
woofersetc.com told me that the es620z's DO have the updated tweeters (DRT26's) is this correct?
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Originally Posted by jrhunkler
woofersetc.com told me that the es620z's DO have the updated tweeters (DRT26's) is this correct?
They probably have more updated information than I do. But there's also a tweeter (peerless based iirc) that is on a rectangular mount which is supposed to be much much better.
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Originally Posted by fej
Best way in a car always involves something custom jr, but what is acceptable to YOU has to be determined by your ears...

I also have a kickpanel location which equalizes pathlengths, which IMO is the largest influence on stage in a car, but that is just my 2c.

Eventually, almost all "car audio" guys end up with great home systems and "good" car setups.
Amen, amen and amen.
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