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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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in the next couple of weeks I'll be installing my Boston Pro60 components, I need to decide where I want to put the tweeters. my preference would be on the lower end of the A-pillars facing roughly inward. based on some pictures, such as this one from the FAQ, I'm not so sure that the tweeter will fit however due to stuff in the way.



has anyone put their tweeters in this location?

my second choice might be something like the above owner did:




but I don't want the tweeters to be that visible to onlookers and I would like them closer to me if possible. if niether of those ideas work for me I may go for the door pull thing which is also discussed in the Audio FAQ.

so some questions for those who have installed components and tweeters before:
my first question above, can a tweeter be mounted on the inside surface of the A-Pillar? it looks pretty flat, but I don't know if the strucural member there would be in the way.

how do you remove the A-Piller? looks like its just metal clips, but I don't want to just pull on things hoping they will pop off without breaking something.

since the pillar is vinyl wrapped, how does one make a hole in it? do I have to worry about ripping the vinyl and making tears which are visible after the tweeter is installed? is it glued to the pillar over the entire surface? since I've never tried cutting into it before, what should I do? how do I do it right?

if I go for the door pull installation, are there any step by steps on this? I've seen a pic of the final product, but havent run across any detailed pictures of how it was done, how the door pull was removed etc.

thanks in advance!
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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a pillar needs refabrication using fiberglass, bondo, tons of sanding, and many hours of time.





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Hey, I recognize thos first pics

I recently attempted tweeter mounts similar to Kale's over the weekend. However they will be re-done. This was my first experience in fiberglass and I made a couple of mistakes:

a) on the drivers side A-pillar, I attempted to fiberglass ONLY the area around the molded section. this created a horrible crease where the fabric stopped that not even a well sanded section of bondo could totally remove.

b) on the passenger side A-pillar, i made the mistake of using a foam brush to apply the fiberglas resin. I didn't use enough and as a result the sanding didn't turn out well.

The good news is that I was planning on throwing away these A-pillars anyway. I damaged the mounting tabs the first time I re-installed them so they're going to have to be replaced. The Imaging is significantly improved from the original "drill and mount" versions.

Once i get new A-pillars, I will be remaking the moldings using the proper technique and materials.
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that tweeter mount looks amazing! I wish I had that kind of talent, although it wouldn't work for me ultimately because I want to put gauges on the driver's side eventually. I think the flush mount idea might be the best for me, if all goes well the tweeters will look like they were supposed to be there. still looking for any advice by anyone who has attempted smiliar installations.
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Here's my new mounts:




In these locations, you can still use an A-pillar gauge pod. In addition, the time correction between woofer and tweeter is minimal on the drivers side and identical on the passenger side.
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Originally Posted by mcgilles
that tweeter mount looks amazing! I wish I had that kind of talent, although it wouldn't work for me ultimately because I want to put gauges on the driver's side eventually. I think the flush mount idea might be the best for me, if all goes well the tweeters will look like they were supposed to be there. still looking for any advice by anyone who has attempted smiliar installations.
those pillars are only my second attempt, its really pretty easy mho.

problem is reflections are a bitch. imagine an invisible, wide, cone that extends out from your tweeters. If that cone touches anything, it will mess up your sound. If it touches glass, it will _really_ mess it up.

Flush mounting would be tough, there really isn't a flat surface on the pillars, and there isn't a spot that's deep and wide enough for a tweeter.
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Originally Posted by Kale
those pillars are only my second attempt, its really pretty easy mho.

problem is reflections are a bitch. imagine an invisible, wide, cone that extends out from your tweeters. If that cone touches anything, it will mess up your sound. If it touches glass, it will _really_ mess it up.

Flush mounting would be tough, there really isn't a flat surface on the pillars, and there isn't a spot that's deep and wide enough for a tweeter.
I'm relying on the fact that my tweeters are ring-radiator style. The "firing cone" should be narrow. The version 2.0 I will do will have them aimed even more preciesly, but for now they will work.
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this is the area that I had in mind. if there's any chance there is enough clearance behind here, I might try to flush mount in this location on both sides


downside is that the tweeters face almost directly left or right, so the passenger's tweeter will face the driver, but the driver's will really not face anywhere (into the contours of the gauge cluster)
or I could use the angle mount pieces that come with them and mount to the outside of the pillar and angle the tweeters more towards the passengers. I just don't want it to look too ostentatious.
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probably not a good idea. you'll get a lot of harshness from dash reflections, especially on the driver's side.

imaging will be really bad.
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Not enough clearance for a flush mount. You could do a surface mount but that would stick out like a sore thumb....but aesthetically and acoustically.
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Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer
Not enough clearance for a flush mount. You could do a surface mount but that would stick out like a sore thumb....but aesthetically and acoustically.
that's what I was thinking., it would either have to work to flush mount it or I should consider an alternative. are there any pictures or step by steps of what's involved in putting them behind the door handles? there are some pictures of that kind of a setup in the FAQ. I'm not sure how much I like the idea, but it does put the tweeter in a decent location. I really don't want to drop them down into the stock locations, that just doesn't provide the kind of sound I'm looking for.
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step 1: drill appropriate sized hole through door handle.
Step 2: stick tweeter in, use silicone sealer on the back to hold in place.
step 3: enjoy poor imaging, top end response, and extreme side bias.



I tried this first in my set up. I was actually able to get it sounding OK with some clever work with a parametric EQ. Forget about imaging though. Still was better than bose.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1967177

well, in the C6 i did, this location worked out fine of course it varies with tuning and the tweeter involved

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