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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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A vendor on the Forum advertised the Blinder X-Treme. It jams laser. Is there a good unit available that jams laser and K, KA, X bands, etc?

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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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Maybe on the black market. Radar jammers are illegal.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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It is legal to jam laser in most states. It is illegal to jam radar based on FCC law. The IR spectrum used in LIDAR is not controlled by the FCC.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Well,I was going to do a search for the thousands of posts on this but apparently my computer isn't working right so I can't!Use the search function for tons of info on this topic.A test was done a while back and the laser stuff did nothing to jam anything prior to when you would've gotten a ticket anyway.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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A test was done a while back and the laser stuff did nothing to jam anything prior to when you would've gotten a ticket anyway.
Where is this test?
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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try this, http://rockymountainradar.com/

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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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Radar Jamming is illegal..but the Blinder for jamming laser is legal in almost every state. From what I've read in the past, the Blinder is the best.

You can probably search guysoflidar.com, radartest.com or one of those sights and find a review.

Good luck!

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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 95blklsc
It is legal to jam laser in most states. It is illegal to jam radar based on FCC law. The IR spectrum used in LIDAR is not controlled by the FCC.
Actually it's still legal to jam laser (Lidar) in most states. There are nine where it's outright illegal and one that's questionable. I suspect other states will ban it as quickly as they can get around to it. A year or so ago, California and one other state were the only ones that had banned it.

Here's a good source of information:
http://www.guysoflidar.com/usa-laser-jammer-laws.html
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I do not remember asking about the legality.
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Where is this test?
You know,I don't remember.I do remember it was just a straight ahead test of a car coming at the radar gun and turning on the jammer.I know there's also a website somewhere that has testing info,but again,it's been a while and my memory is shot!

Found this site thru google.Lots of links to look at that way.

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I do not remember asking about the legality.
No, you asked about what unit would be best to jam radar. It is illegal to sell or own such a device, so there isn't a legal one out there that you can buy. Therefore, there is no "best" one to recommend. Besides, police radar units will report if it's being jammed, so you'd be busted for doing it anyway. Save your money.
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Originally Posted by 08crm
You know,I don't remember.I do remember it was just a straight ahead test of a car coming at the radar gun and turning on the jammer.I know there's also a website somewhere that has testing info,but again,it's been a while and my memory is shot!

Found this site thru google.Lots of links to look at that way.
From what I can determine, the Feds shut down the only really good radar jammer manufacturer. Using it was a federal felony offense.

Here's a link that should help you understand the capabilities and risks of radar jammers:
http://www.radarjammer.com/

Here's some good data on jamming laser:
http://www.guysoflidar.com/july-2008...mmer-test.html
Using one of these isn't subject to federal law like a radar jammer, but it is subject to various state laws as I noted above.

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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Don
try this, http://rockymountainradar.com/

I have mine several years now, saved me too many times to count.
I've been doing some research and it looks like Rocky Mountain is top of the line.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Blinder M-20 Xtreme

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In appearance the Blinder is a near twin of the BEL and Escort. The European-made product is a dual-transceiver design, with both units intended to be mounted in the front of the vehicle. Although few laser attacks occur from the rear, the supplied interface box supports up to two more transceivers, available at additional cost. For extra-large vehicles the $599 M40 model provides four as standard.

The Blinder's transceiver housings are rectangular, similar in size to those of the Escort and BEL.

The power control and alert system are more rudimentary than the BEL's and Escort's, better than the Lidatek's and far superior to that of the K40 Defuser. The ear-splitting audio alert could use a volume control; our target-car driver complained of near deafness after a few hours of being subjected to the din.

In our last test an earlier Blinder model turned in disappointing scores. But from what we saw on this go-round, they've apparently devoted some time to improving their product.

The Blinder M20 Xtreme comes with a Speeding Ticket rebate, free for the first year of ownership and renewable at extra cost ($49 for Year 2, $69 for Year 3) up to a total of three years. There are some minor caveats--professional installation is a requirement, though occasionally waived--but it's a straightforward and comprehensive offer to reimburse any owner who receives a laser speeding ticket.

Bottom line: Not even close to Escort- and BEL-level packaging sophistication, but good jamming performance

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Rocky Mountain Radar RMR-C450

($269.95) Rocky Mountain Radar RMR-C450

Rocky Mountain Radar receives credit for inventing the bogus radar jammer, an event we were the first to inform the world about well over a decade ago. (Automobile magazine, "The Little Jammer That Couldn't", June 1993). Then they introduced the bogus laser jammer, which we amply documented in stories for Automobile, the BMW Roundel, Car Audio and Electronics, AUTOTronics and a host of other magazines, both here and abroad.

More recently, Rocky Mountain Radar hooked up with a Korean manufacturer of cheap radar detectors and bingo, here's the RMR-C450, a radar detector that RMR claims can also magically jam all radar and lasers. When introduced, it was known as the RMR-D450. Rocky Mountain Radar has a long history of immediately renaming their products as soon as word spreads in the media that they're ineffective. (Within weeks of my 1993 Automobile magazine story hitting the newsstands, they'd already relabeled both of their jammers.) This strategy also gives RMR what appears to be a broad product lineup, despite the fact that all of their working models (the jammer-only models are complete hoaxes) are based on only three platforms, meaning that six to eight models can be identical inside, differing only in appearance.

The jamming ability of the Rocky Mountain Radar RMR-C450 (or RMR-D450, take your pick; it's the same box) was nonexistent, failing entirely to jam any of the guns. (If you're truly curious, open its case; you won't find anything inside that's remotely capable of jamming anything.)

We did find, however, that by removing the Rocky Mountain Radar RMR-C450 from the dash and substituting its cardboard box, a slight reduction in maximum laser target range was achieved.

If you're looking for a less expensive alternative, Rocky Mountain Radar offers the Phazer II ($179.95), priced lower because it's not a detector and claims only to be a jammer. But having tested the Phazer, both the original and the Phazer II (look for a Phazer III not long after this story comes out), we can say with complete assurance that it jams absolutely nothing.

Bottom line: Save money: put an empty cardboard box on your dash instead.
Rating: no stars
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Originally Posted by The Don
try this, http://rockymountainradar.com/

I have mine several years now, saved me too many times to count.
Rocky Mountain jammer is junk. I threw mine away.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Rocky Mountain jammer is junk. I threw mine away.
I think you'll find an overwhelming consensus on this point!
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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I know what works for me.... 9 MPH over the posted speed limit has NEVER gotten me a speeding ticket.
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I'm sure people have to wonder why jamming radar is illegal and I don't know the precise reason, but will guess that it has to do with airports. Imagine your loved ones are flying into a local airport in bad weather, fog, snow or whatever and someone's got a radar jammer running?
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A radar jammer is just like a shoplifting purse. It's used to break the law. So I guess the next time you plan on going shopping, you can get one of those secret shoplifting purses to put you items in for your "five finger discount". Sorry if I sound so rude, but don't break the law and you will not need "such devises" in your life!!!
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I'm sure people have to wonder why jamming radar is illegal and I don't know the precise reason, but will guess that it has to do with airports. Imagine your loved ones are flying into a local airport in bad weather, fog, snow or whatever and someone's got a radar jammer running?
Jamming radar is illegal because radar is actually part of the radio spectrum. Radar jammers are radio transmitters. The US Government has control of all radio transmission.

Certain radio frequency bands are reserved for unregulated (very low power use) such as your Wi-Fi router & cordless house phone.

Other bands are reserved for TV, FM radio, Ham radio, CB radio, Business band walkie talkies, cell phones, etc. Still other bands are reserved for military, police & other emergency responders.

Radar bands are reserved for military, air traffic control, maritime navigation, and police. Transmitting on those bands was illegal in the US long before radar was used for speed enforcement.

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