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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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In my 08 I have replaced the HU with a AVIC F 90 and now am ready for a component set for the doors. I have read posts about different setups but can someone give me your favorites and where to buy them? All I need for now is the front speakers and an amp. Also what kind of insulation works best in the doors? I have already ordered the plates for the 6.5's and am ready to get'er done. The bose speakers sound like crap! Thanks...
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There is an awesome list: Here.
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What kind of music do you listen to normally?
What's your budget?
Yeah, if you're going for some nice sound quality, you should do some sound deadening.
I personally bought some cheap Fat Mats on that auction site.

There are so many speakers anywhere from $50 to those that cost more than a grand.

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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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What kind of music do you listen to normally?
What's your budget?
Yeah, if you're going for some nice sound quality, you should do some sound deadening.
I personally bought some cheap Fat Mats on that auction site.

There are so many speakers anywhere from $50 to those that cost more than a grand.

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I listen to everything from Metallica to Boston, Beatles to Country.
Don't need real hard thump, just great quality. Like to spend between $500.00 to $1,000.00.
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i guess since you don't want to read the hundreds of identical threads, we'll all just repeat ourselves lots of times.

focal
dynaudio
dls
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pioneer premier

damping:
second skin (BEST, mid price)
Dynaudio (good, high price)
raamat (not bad, low price)

pretty much all other damping mat is trash or made from asphalt, or doesn't stick, or doesn't have a foil layer. or is actually roofing material.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Thinking about going with these-
Pioneer Premier TS-C720PRS
What amp would work well with this setup?
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Arc makes some solid stuff .. I was happy with my Alpine PDX amps with the same component set, I really like the Genesis Profile P5 that runs my vette system, can't go wrong with OLD school Soundstream reference or PPI art series .. the newer stuff is not very good.
If you want to spend money on power, TRU or Audison or McIntosh IMO.

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Originally Posted by almondted
Thinking about going with these-
Pioneer Premier TS-C720PRS
What amp would work well with this setup?
I heard they're really nice speakers for their price and brand name.
That's why I bought a pair myself.

As far as amps, you can pretty much use any multi-channel amplifiers that puts out enough power for those speakers.
Like others mentioned, TRU, Audison, etc. are high-end amps which ain't cheap. But it WILL give you a nice clean sound.
PDX is also a nice amp; small, efficient. But keep in mind it's a Class D amp.
I've personally used anything from MTX, RockFord to JLs.
I have a Zuki Eleets sitting in my living room waiting to get installed, and I'm pretty excited about it.
Try some audio forums online, and you'll get a good idea of the most popular amps.

You can get those speakers for less $$ from sonic electronix.com

Good luck!

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Those pioneers look awesome but only 50 watts rms?? seems a bit low compared to others.
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Those pioneers look awesome but only 50 watts rms?? seems a bit low compared to others.
If the power is clean, they will handle much more. I know of a guy running 280wrms (each) to the mids...
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Power handling numbers are a silly thing.
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If you are willing to drop 500-1k, why settle for a set of Pioneers?

For another 125 or so, you could have a REALLY nice set of Polk SR6500's, or DLS UR6.5's that I'm sure would bury those Pioneers.

But then again, like Kale & Fej said, or eluded to. You are going to need clean power to take advantage of good speakers.

I have nothing against Pioneer, but as far as I've known, they have never been considered "high" quality. They been more of a semi-decent price point type of manufacturer.

I too enjoy the old school power of the late 80's-mid 90's, and would recommend those amps over nearly everything to date.
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Actually, those pioneers have arguably one of the best midranges on the market. Regardless of price.
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Actually, those pioneers have arguably one of the best midranges on the market. Regardless of price.
I didn't know that. On the retail "market", or up against high end components?

I remember back in the mid 80's using a 12" sub-woofer that really blew away the traditional Kicker woofers that most guys used back then, but I've never used them for a sound quality set-up, and never would.

I would compare the quality to an old Jensen type set-up. They sounded good, but not really good, you know?
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Yeah, no holds barred.
They're kind of a fluke for 'big box store brand' speakers, really.
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Good info guys, thanks.
Still not sure what amp to use so any more info there would really help. Brand and model.
Besides an amp, any thing else I will need?
I can rebuild a tractor or weld just about anything but don't know diddly about speakers or amps. Whats a class D?
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do u plan on adding a sub later or amping rear speakers etc,
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Originally Posted by pentavolvo
do u plan on adding a sub later or amping rear speakers etc,
No plans for a rear sub and from what I have read here the rear speakers are not necessary so just looking for quality, clean sound from the front... Do I need rears to sound good? I don't need big thump and the reason for the upgrade is the bose in the doors just sound like crap!
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As Kale mentioned the Pioneer 720PRS set was a great set of components, especially the mid. I ran them in my truck with 165w per driver on them in deadend Q logic kickpanels and they rivaled people with 5x the cost in their front sound stage, and got many compliments at the last event I went to.

For $250 I would put them against any other set in the market, and with a small tweet exchange put them up against almost any other raw driver at the price point when run active and HP'd above 80hz.

G'luck on your choices and set up, and don't ask too much from a 6 5/8" driver (it is not really a 6.75)

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