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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 03:26 AM
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Default Any problem with 2.5, 5, 3 ohm equipment?

Any problem running that kind of equipment with a regular amp? The subs I want (5" subs) are 5ohm, so I suppose that makes then 2.5.... that won't make my amp react badly will it? I wouldn't think so but...

The seperates I ordered are 3.7 ohm.




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It all depend on how stable your amp. Some amps are 1 ohm stable bridged while others start to clip or go into protection with any load lower that 4 ohms. With a 5 ohm speaker you have the choice of presneting the amp with a 2.5 ohm load or a 10 ohm load.

Just curious, but who makes a 5 ohm driver? I've never heard of one.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 09:45 AM
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Default Re: Any problem with 2.5, 5, 3 ohm equipment? (Smash)

Remember those ratings are "Resistive" only, when the speaker starts to play and begins to build-up heat the actual impedence will increase the overall resistance of the speaker load. Translation, the seperates you bought are 3.7 Ohm, which your amp should have absolutely no problem powering all day long. For subwoofer duty and amplifier running two 4 ohm speakers in parallel should be rated for 2 ohm mono operation and be vented or at least have a good cooling fan.

In my coupe I'm running 2 ohm mono on my sub amp (Audio Art 100HC's for sub and midrange) and 4 ohm stereo on midrange. However since these values are "resistive" my midrange may actually fall to as low as 2.8 ohm's at brief instances due to the passive crossover network.

Main thing is try to match amplifier output rating with the recommeded/reated speaker resistance and you shouldn't have any problems.
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Default Re: Any problem with 2.5, 5, 3 ohm equipment? (mrkln)

Just curious, but who makes a 5 ohm driver? I've never heard of one.
JBL used to make a 5ohm single voicecoil sub, but I tought those were gone like the wind.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Any problem with 2.5, 5, 3 ohm equipment? (JoeyG)

Remember those ratings are "Resistive" only, when the speaker starts to play and begins to build-up heat the actual impedence will increase the overall resistance of the speaker load. Translation, the seperates you bought are 3.7 Ohm, which your amp should have absolutely no problem powering all day long. For subwoofer duty and amplifier running two 4 ohm speakers in parallel should be rated for 2 ohm mono operation and be vented or at least have a good cooling fan.

In my coupe I'm running 2 ohm mono on my sub amp (Audio Art 100HC's for sub and midrange) and 4 ohm stereo on midrange. However since these values are "resistive" my midrange may actually fall to as low as 2.8 ohm's at brief instances due to the passive crossover network.

Main thing is try to match amplifier output rating with the recommeded/reated speaker resistance and you shouldn't have any problems.
The RESISTANCE of a copper wound voice coil will not increase significantly under normal drive levels. You would have to get the wire red hot to see any large change. No speaker is ever a pure resistive load over it's operating frequency range, it almost always has a reactive component too. The two components together are called IMPEDANCE. Impedance has a resistive and a reactive term. The reactive component can be inductive or capacitive. Both components are different at every frequency, cone loading and input power level. A speaker manufacturer simplifies the term impedance by only showing the average value of the vector sum of the two components.

If you ever saturated the core of the speaker by overpowering it, then the impedance will fall dramatically and will be almost equal to the resistance of the voice coil wire. This will basically be a dead short on a large speaker.
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Your SS amps should be good down to 1 ohm. Consider the seperates 4 ohm for installation purposes. Most car audio is 4 and home 8 ohm. Subs and speakers can be combined in series and parallel to change the ohm rating. See http://www.mobileaudio.com in the FAQ section for all the calculations and wiring diagrams.
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Focal makes the 5ohm driver.
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The RESISTANCE of a copper wound voice coil will not increase significantly under normal drive levels. You would have to get the wire red hot to see any large change. No speaker is ever a pure resistive load over it's operating frequency range, it almost always has a reactive component too. The two components together are called IMPEDANCE. Impedance has a resistive and a reactive term. The reactive component can be inductive or capacitive. Both components are different at every frequency, cone loading and input power level. A speaker manufacturer simplifies the term impedance by only showing the average value of the vector sum of the two components.

If you ever saturated the core of the speaker by overpowering it, then the impedance will fall dramatically and will be almost equal to the resistance of the voice coil wire. This will basically be a dead short on a large speaker.
Correct sir, thanks for the clarification to my statement.
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Default Re: Any problem with 2.5, 5, 3 ohm equipment? (Smash)

the Focal 5WS are the ones im sure your refering too
They are excellent speakers

How many did you want to run total?
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 04:34 PM
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the Focal 5WS are the ones im sure your refering too
They are excellent speakers

How many did you want to run total?


Two. I'd be putting them in the stock 6x9 location.. which is in the far rear, they'd point at a 45' angle towards the top of the glass.


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Default Re: Any problem with 2.5, 5, 3 ohm equipment? (Smash)

are you going to run them sealed, free air or build an enclosure for them and port them ?


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heres some diff pics of them








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Ported to Focal's specs.
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awewsome

im gonna put a set in some aperiodic membrane and well see how it sounds its for fun
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Looks like a good driver. What kind of ported enclosure does Focal recommend?
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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.3 cubic feet
1" diameter 4" deep port

that's from memory though. i know for sure about the 4" port depth and .3 size, not 100% on diameter.
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you can get much more lower extention from them if you do a bigger box but space is the problem hehe

they just reviewed teh 5WS in a magazine ill get the mag and month for you guys so you can read it
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