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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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The Eagles "Hell Freezes Over" disc, and that version of Hotel California has been one of my reference tracks for tuning basically since it came out. Fej
are you talking about the live concert version or the studio version?

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ER, don't most adults hear between 30-16khz anyway?
that depends on how many times a day you sneeeze and pop your ears out... Once i was driving and had a good sneeze fest and though i'd lost my left tweeter
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are you talking about the live concert version or the studio version?



that depends on how many times a day you sneeeze and pop your ears out... Once i was driving and had a good sneeze fest and though i'd lost my left tweeter
One time I completely retuned a system I finally had tweaked to perfection because I had congestion and wasn't aware of it. When the congestio nwas done, BOY did my system sound terrible.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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The "live" concert version, with the crazy acoustic sections. It is from the "hell freezes over" disc. It works well for stage depth and location as well, as there are like 4 guys sitting across the front with guitars.

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I agree Grz, late 70's and 80's engineering is far superior to what we have now. Vinyl allows a larger spectrum of playback as well (beyond the 20hz to 20khz CD's have). Telarc and Sheffield labs have some great CD's, and if you can find the Focal "listening" discs they are really well recorded also.

Modern day tracks are somewhat few and far between, but The Eagles "Hell Freezes Over" disc, and that version of Hotel California has been one of my reference tracks for tuning basically since it came out. Great transients and detail, without all of the BS distortion from today's engineers.

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I use Hotel California on Hell Freezes over also. I totally agree it has an excellent level of detail, with the bass drum in the beginning, a great range of guitar work, and vocals.
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I agree with all the above, I know CD's were like the best thing since sliced bread 15 years ago, now the SQ of any MP3 is bad, I have everything ripped at 320K I still like to put the original CD in my player and listen, I can hear a difference, I can hear it also on my IPOD with Shure SCL5 IEM.

I wish Mini-Disk would have took off, I thought that they sounded close to the original.

So how are all you guys ripping everything. I have thought about keeping everything in a WAV format onto a hardrive in the car.
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 08:41 PM
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I have a "collection" of MSLF(not enough) Shefield, Telarc, and other incredible disks. I once had my son make very good copies of so I could use them in my vehicles but now they are all beat from such use over time. I need to do this again. I should have him burn them all in a loss less format instead of onto discs.

Alan Parson's Project, it took me a year and $100 ten years ago to find his system reference CD, it would blow anyone's mind and most systems actually

I like guys who "think" car audio cannot be audiophile. I took my Tacoma to the oldest "highfi" shop in the US and blew them away with the McIntosh, Zapco, Dynaudio sytem I had just beaten a prior world champ with. Two months later my new and even better system, beat him again, I may of said this stuff before, I am beat from a very long day so far, but I have had VERY talented musicians, a conductor, producer, etc blown away by listening to it

I took my son to CES once, listened to all the gear at Alexis Park, only one sounded better than my Tacoma according to my son whom had never heard such gear before. The best one was Edgarhorn Titans(we have the upgraded Slimlines) which in my mind and certainly in my sons blew away all the others there and our truck sitting outside.

I could not get one of other "High End" (mostly SNAKE OIL) manufactures there to even consider listening to my truck nor would they say anything about Doc Edgars stuff when asked, just changed the subject, ask us to leave, etc......

I have so little time to spend on this now I do the best I can and try not to remember just how good my systems used to be.

I am never going all out in a car again but will have something good in all of them, always.

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Alan Parson's Project, it took me a year and $100 ten years ago to find his system reference CD, it would blow anyone's mind and most systems actually
I hadn't heard of their "system reference" album, so out of curiosity, I did a quick search on it.
I have no idea if this is any good or not, but I suspect you are talking about his "Sound Check" Album? I found it here about 1/2 way down the page. I have no idea if it is any good or not, but the cuts are in .flac format. I will download it and see what I get. You have me curious, plus I have the IASCA SQ reference CD, and this might be a nice addition.
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"Sound Check"it is, be sure to check out the real cannon shots, machine gun, jet flyover, if you have a really serious sounding system they will blow you away, and more great tracks!!!

I would advise to work your way up, very high dB recordings.

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I am new to downloading music. What sites have the best recordings (verified quality)?

Fee based sites

Free sites
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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I am new to downloading music. What sites have the best recordings (verified quality)?

Fee based sites

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Itunes lossless option.
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Itunes lossless option.
Is "lossless" a format or a different site than the regular site?

Are all the other less expense sites not as good a quality?

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by fej
Telarc and Sheffield labs have some great CD's, and if you can find the Focal "listening" discs they are really well recorded also.
Are those the Focal Demo discs, or is it different and called specifically "listening" discs?
If it's something different, I'm interested in finding those.
Demo discs I have are awesome.

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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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They are from the "Focal Demonstration" series of discs. Sorry I could not think of the name when I posted

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Originally Posted by fej
They are from the "Focal Demonstration" series of discs. Sorry I could not think of the name when I posted

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Thanks for the clarification. Yeah, I love those discs.

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Originally Posted by IRVINEC6
I am new to downloading music. What sites have the best recordings (verified quality)?

Fee based sites

Free sites
Try alt.binaries.sounds.lossless in Usenet.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fej
Telarc and Sheffield labs have some great CD's, and if you can find the Focal "listening" discs they are really well recorded also.
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All 6 Focal Demo Discs Ready for Download. I am sure that they will not be there long!

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...-download.html
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Man I gotta get home to a different computer so I can snag these.
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All 6 Focal Demo Discs Ready for Download. I am sure that they will not be there long!

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...-download.html
Thanks for the link

Just FYI, it took me 40 minutes for disc 1 at 145k/sec, disc 2 is going even slower, and it won't let you download two at once unless you become a paying member. At least it isn't making me wait 2 hours between discs like some said happened to them

But I'm not complaining, free is worth the wait.
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Here is another audio reference CD from Alpine.
Alpine- Speed of Sound


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X8LGHL7P
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Disc 3 is downloading as I type. I used winrar to unzip the downloaded files into actual music and itunes to burn the songs from disc 1 onto an audio CD, then played it in my bluray player thru my 5.1 surround sound system.

WOW The quality of the recordings is amazing. I switched the receiver over to 5-channel stereo and cranked it up, hopefully my neighbors weren't trying to sleep.

I'm sure I'll get my car setup tweaked in even better now that I have some quality recordings to adjust it with. Hair Nation will never be the same.

Thanks again for the links
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