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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 11:06 PM
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so, im thinking about adding a sub to my system, but im not sure what im looking for. what i do know is that i have a very small cockpit, smaller then a c5/c6, and im going to need an amp that can do two things.

as for the sub, im looking for something smallish in size and has a bit of kick. i dont want a loud boomy sub, but something thats tight and packs a punch, and adds to the music. i mainly listen to classic rock, hard rock, and metal.

let me start off with what i have currently..
1969 corvette convertible, i have very little space to work with here
kenwood kiv-700
xtant A4004
polk momo 4x6 in the kick panels
polk momo 6x9 behind the seats
i like what i currently have, but its just lacking bass.

now, heres where my real problem comes in. no matter what, im going to need a 2nd amp.

option 1. ill need a 3-4 channel amp, something that can do at least 50w x2 at 4ohm, and run the sub

option 2, and i dont know if this is even possible. run a DVC sub at 4Ohm off my current amp. bridge channels 1+2 (200wrms 4Ohm) to coil 1, and brdige channels 3-4 (200wrms 4Ohm) to coil 2. ill then need a 3-4 channel amp that can do 50wrms x2 4Ohm, and 100wrms x2 4Ohm.

option 3. get an svc sub thats 200w at 4ohm, and run it off my current amp, bridged, while running the 4x6s off the other channels. ill then need a 2 channel amp that can do 100w x2 at 4Ohm.

i was thinking about a polk mombile monitor 8" sub, but i dont know if an 8" will even do enough to even bother trying.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 12:12 AM
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exactly how much space do we have to work with...can you post up a pic of the space that is alloted?

if you could manage a 10" you could get a slammin Boston Acoustic with a passive radiator and you would be set for life

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_065GTR1...10+inch+boston

matched up with this

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_065G310...10+inch+boston

this sub only requires 0.5 feet of cubic space in a sealed box

as far as the amp goes, maybe you could stack the amps to save space, there are some killer ideas on some car audio websites out there

good luck!

peace
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 12:25 AM
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not the best picture, but the only one i could find.



new problem i just realized... i need to still have room for my convertible top. how short of box can a shallow mount sub fit into?

as for the second amp, ive got a location picked out, behind my drivers seat. i have my other one behind the passenger seat. in the little bit of time ive spent looking, i just havnt been able to find something that meets my requirments.
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ive got some ideas ill pm u tonite
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Yet another option is a new 5-channel amp. Dennis sells the XR-5S which is 80x4 + 350x1. Then you could sell your current equipment to get back some cash.

I currently have a 12" shallow sub that only requires 3.25" top-mount depth, so it can be in a box made from 3/4" MDF that's only a tad over 4" tall. A 10" shallow like this one requires even less and would go nice with that amp.
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thats a very nice looking amp, but alot more then i was planning on spending. i might just have to wait till next winter to tackle this project. ive still got a motor pull coming up in a few weeks...
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Give Dennis a shout, I can't promise anything, but he can probably take about $200 or so off the price shown on that page
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whats ur budget.
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i dont really have a set budget, but i was thinking 1-150 for each component on ebay.
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slim 10 against the back wall and small 2 channel would prly rock pretty good
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thats kinda what im leaning towards right now. do you think a sub in the 200wrms area would do it, or am i going to have to go to the 3-400w range?
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2-300 should give u some nice low end. talk to dennis about slim 10 kenwood or pioneer, i can help design and or build a box
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thanks for the help. im going to have to wait a little while before i can do anything though. i currently have the hard top on my car, and i cant remember how much room my soft top takes up. im going to have to switch tops and pull some measurements before i do much more.
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I have the new Kenwood and KEnwood Excelon shallow subs instock!

cant post price however due to map guidlines with Kenwood
work out with Pentavolvo what you would like and I will price it for you

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get me some rough numbers and i can work on a box for u
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THEY ARE VERY LIGHT WEIGHT AND 80% FIBERGLASS. WE ALSO SPRAY TRUCK THE BOX IS FITS IN SUCH A MANNER THAT IT HOLDS ITS SELF IN PLACE. BED LINNER INSIDE TO GIVE IT MORE STRENGHT. WE SEND THEM TO PAINT SHOP FOR THE FINAL ROUND AND WILL PANIT THEM ANY COLOR CODE OR MAKE YOUR OWN UP. THEN WE PUT 3 LAYERS OF CLEARCOAT ON. THESE SOUND GREAT. I RUN 2 ALPINES WITH ONLY A 600 WATT ALPINE AMP THAT FITS INSIDE ONE OF THE REAR COMPARTMENTS AND 1 HAVE A APINE 4X100 FOR THE OTHER SPEAKERS. THIS WAY YOU CAN TURN YOUR SUB IN THE DOOR INTO A MID RANGE AND I ADDED 2 TWETERS INSIDE THE MIDDLE HEAT AND AIR VENTS. iT WILL SHAKE THE WINDOWS IF THATS WHAT YOU WANT. I RUN MY AMP ABOUT 3/4 POWER AND IT WILL ROCK YOU WITH THE SMALL CABIN OF THE VETT. wE CHARGE $995.00 PLUS SHIPING. WE PAY 250.00 TO GET THEM PAINTED AND WE HAVE ABOUT 30MAN HOURS NOT INCLUDING THE PAINT IN THEM PLUS ALL THE MATERIALS SO WE ARE NOT REALLY MAKING VERY MUCH ON THEM. WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ALOT OF THE CORVETTE SHOW AND WILL PROABALY CHARGE 1295.00 FOR THEM. THE DOUBLE 10 TAKES THE LONGEST TO MAKE BUT IT LOOKS GREAT. WE HAVE A FLAT BLACK ONE THAT A GUY ORDERD AND WILLL PICK IT UP FROM PAINT IN 2 DAYS IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOME PICS OF IT. MY PERSONAL EMAIL IS BURLESON71@HOTMAIL.COM AND MY CELL IS 615-319-9301. UOR WEBSITE IS ALMOST FINISHED. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM. AND THEY ARE BUILT TO THE CUBIC FT SPECS ON YOUR SUBS THAT YOU WANT TO USE. BUT YOU CANT GO WROND WITH THE ALPINES TYPE R THAT CAN TAKE 1500 WATTS EACH. YOU CAN PICK THEM UP FOR AROUND 100.00 EACH NOW.
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so, im thinking about adding a sub to my system, but im not sure what im looking for. what i do know is that i have a very small cockpit, smaller then a c5/c6, and im going to need an amp that can do two things.

as for the sub, im looking for something smallish in size and has a bit of kick. i dont want a loud boomy sub, but something thats tight and packs a punch, and adds to the music. i mainly listen to classic rock, hard rock, and metal.

let me start off with what i have currently..
1969 corvette convertible, i have very little space to work with here
kenwood kiv-700
xtant A4004
polk momo 4x6 in the kick panels
polk momo 6x9 behind the seats
i like what i currently have, but its just lacking bass.

now, heres where my real problem comes in. no matter what, im going to need a 2nd amp.

option 1. ill need a 3-4 channel amp, something that can do at least 50w x2 at 4ohm, and run the sub

option 2, and i dont know if this is even possible. run a DVC sub at 4Ohm off my current amp. bridge channels 1+2 (200wrms 4Ohm) to coil 1, and brdige channels 3-4 (200wrms 4Ohm) to coil 2. ill then need a 3-4 channel amp that can do 50wrms x2 4Ohm, and 100wrms x2 4Ohm.

option 3. get an svc sub thats 200w at 4ohm, and run it off my current amp, bridged, while running the 4x6s off the other channels. ill then need a 2 channel amp that can do 100w x2 at 4Ohm.

i was thinking about a polk mombile monitor 8" sub, but i dont know if an 8" will even do enough to even bother trying.
I have a 69 too and am looking to put 6x9s behind the seat. Can you post a pic of where you put yours. Thanks
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69VetteFla, i sure can.

i realize these arent the greatest of pictures, but if youd like better ones, i can get them.


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For what's it's worth I had a pair of Polk Momo 8's and a 300 watt Polk Amp running in my 81 C3 and it rocked, very tight Bass with plenty of punch.

I custom made the box to fill the back and still utilize the cubbyhole's but looks like you got that part covered pretty well already!

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