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Old May 28, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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This is a carbon fiber test box so if you see any dents or waves (we did not block sand it) in it they will not be there and the sub is straight instead of on a angle. This box weighs 5.6 lbs and .76 cubic ft and holds a 10-inch up to 7.5 inch deep. The boxes are solid as a rock and the fiber is a 3M product and is guaranteed not fade for 12 years. This is the silver and a have a black carbon also. A forum member replaced his Stealth boxes with one of these and he said it blows the stealth away. We have ones for the passenger side if you would like duals. We are not going to be advertising on the forum for a while after June 1st so if you need to contact us just use the burleson71@hotmail.com or call 615-319-9301. Our website should be up in two weeks they told me. It is www.corvettesubbox.com. We have single boxes, dual boxes and single dual boxes for C5 and C6 corvettes. We do these in carpet also with corvette logo or what ever you would like embroider into the carpet. There is also a cloth carbon fiber (Black). We have 4 C6 convertible boxes ready to cover. 3 For Coupe. If you are not totally satisfied with your box for any reason we will buy it back plus pay for shipping. If you have any questions at all please ask. Our have the lightest and strongest boxes on the market. In a corvette, weight does matter!

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why not do rear corner pods if your going through all that trouble of molding/etc...
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why not do rear corner pods if your going through all that trouble of molding/etc...
One reason is the closer to the top of the hatch and not pointed toward you the better bass you have. We tested 3 types and this sounds the best. the other is so you can put apline amps in them ( they run cool and i have one in each pod and never a problem overheating- or you can use them for another purpose. Alpine sells a mono amp in 600 or 1000 watt for the sub and 600 watt 4 or 6 channel to run the fronts. This is what i run in my 2006 coupe.
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One reason is the closer to the top of the hatch and not pointed toward you the better bass you have. We tested 3 types and this sounds the best. the other is so you can put apline amps in them ( they run cool and i have one in each pod and never a problem overheating- or you can use them for another purpose. Alpine sells a mono amp in 600 or 1000 watt for the sub and 600 watt 4 or 6 channel to run the fronts. This is what i run in my 2006 coupe.
Good question!
the bass mechanic will bite his tongue.... meaning i do not agree with this but because your a vender i will keep my opinions to myself. however i will say that everything you just said is inaccurate.
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why not do rear corner pods if your going through all that trouble of molding/etc...
i totally agree and while your at it make a ported box option. .75" is not even close to enough airspace for a 10 even if the manufacturer says it is. lots of manufacturers say their sub will play in a small enclosure. any sub will play in a small enclosure and it will make bass but not very good sounding or very deep.
its a sales tactic.
if i told you brand x plays in .75 and brand y plays in .5 cu ft. if both were the same price which would you buy?
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i totally agree and while your at it make a ported box option. .75" is not even close to enough airspace for a 10 even if the manufacturer says it is. lots of manufacturers say their sub will play in a small enclosure. any sub will play in a small enclosure and it will make bass but not very good sounding or very deep.
its a sales tactic.
if i told you brand x plays in .75 and brand y plays in .5 cu ft. if both were the same price which would you buy?
What is your degree in - Have you tested them in a vette - I dont think so - if you want to dog my product at least know what you are talking about. I think Alpine and the rest of the producers know more than you!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Doesn't look good to me.
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Doesn't look good to me.
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What is your degree in - Have you tested them in a vette - I dont think so - if you want to dog my product at least know what you are talking about. I think Alpine and the rest of the producers know more than you!!!!!!!!!!!!
actually they know about the same as i do considering we have both developed our own subwoofers for our respective companies.
however i got out of the car audio game years ago because i found somthing that makes a lot more money and with a lot less effort and must less overhead.

and why didnt you just call me an a$$ Hole here? no need to send me a private message! let everyone here see you use your foul mouth and your anger in public!
like i said in a previous post i didn't have anything nice to say so i choose to say nothing. the post you replied to was just a suggestion, not an attack!
if your that convinced your setup is that great ill bet you 100 bucks CASH my pair of 8" ported boxes will play louder and lower with less watts than this box.
we can meet and let anyone you choose give a listen for an unbiased opinion. ill use my JL subs, i won't even use my own. i am simply giving you a suggestion as was stated, why dont you build a molded enclosure that actually fits the space it was intended for? perhaps incorporate the factory trunk lights into it so they can be covered in the stock location and reused to be functional.
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so... I do like the fact it's wrapped in the carbon vinyl / leather look. Little bit better than the standard carpet you see everywhere else. As for design of the box I'm not really sold on it. I guess its one of those things that you have to see/hear in person. Do you have a video or anything like that to compare it? Or even someone with the product in the Houston area to hear it?
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actually they know about the same as i do considering we have both developed our own subwoofers for our respective companies.
however i got out of the car audio game years ago because i found somthing that makes a lot more money and with a lot less effort and must less overhead.

and why didnt you just call me an a$$ Hole here? no need to send me a private message! let everyone here see you use your foul mouth and your anger in public!
like i said in a previous post i didn't have anything nice to say so i choose to say nothing. the post you replied to was just a suggestion, not an attack!
if your that convinced your setup is that great ill bet you 100 bucks CASH my pair of 8" ported boxes will play louder and lower with less watts than this box.
we can meet and let anyone you choose give a listen for an unbiased opinion. ill use my JL subs, i won't even use my own. i am simply giving you a suggestion as was stated, why dont you build a molded enclosure that actually fits the space it was intended for? perhaps incorporate the factory trunk lights into it so they can be covered in the stock location and reused to be functional.
I was attacked as well in private message a few weeks back because I thought the dual sub box he was selling was way too much money and that I found a local shop near me that could do a dual sub box the way I want it for half the price. The box that was built for me sounds and looks sick.

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Originally Posted by patb23
I was attacked as well in private message a few weeks back because I thought the dual sub box he was selling was way too much money and that I found a local shop near me that could do a dual sub box the way I want it for half the price. The box that was built for me sounds and looks sick.
see a pattern! and again i could help this man make some design revisions that would definitly help improve his product.
however since he seems to be about name calling via private message i am reluctant.

the box he has pictured with the pair of 10"s is placed way too far to the front of the hatch area to be effective. i have seen plenty of systems like that and while it looks good you get a standing wave that reflects off the rear of the hatch area and interacts with the sound from the sub causing cancellation. it absolutly kills anything below about 60 hz.
if you have ever heard a sub box in the trunk of a car that sounds kinda ok but when the trunk is opened sounds great. this is a good example of a standing wave and cancellation.
many many years ago, maybe 20 or so i was still learning car audio and i did a mazda rx7 where i attempted a pair of 12's facing forward, then up then to the rear. i learned a lot from that install and would never bother doing that again.
i also don't mess with sealed boxes anymore, a properly tuned ported or bandpass with the right sub walks all over anything sealed. when built right they are nothing short of amazing!
i had a pair of 8's in a bandpass i built that hit 137db with only 300 watts from 17-117 hz perfectly flat!
for the space i think the pair of 8's i did in my vette recently is more than anyone needs. they will easily blow away a pair of 12's in sealed boxes.

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so... I do like the fact it's wrapped in the carbon vinyl / leather look. Little bit better than the standard carpet you see everywhere else. As for design of the box I'm not really sold on it. I guess its one of those things that you have to see/hear in person. Do you have a video or anything like that to compare it? Or even someone with the product in the Houston area to hear it?
Are you comming up to the homecoming in KY. We will have a booth there and I would like everyone to here our products there. As far as porting - It takes up much more room and ads alot more weight - I will agree with him on the dual is to close to the seats but I like the look and it sounds great. It is not the deepest bass bass but it does sound great. Our product is made for light weight and take up as small of a space as possiable. I will do a video and put on you tube ASAP- I would love compare a 8 inch ported to ours.
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Are you comming up to the homecoming in KY. We will have a booth there and I would like everyone to here our products there. As far as porting - It takes up much more room and ads alot more weight - I will agree with him on the dual is to close to the seats but I like the look and it sounds great. It is not the deepest bass bass but it does sound great. Our product is made for light weight and take up as small of a space as possiable. I will do a video and put on you tube ASAP- I would love compare a 8 inch ported to ours.
now that post shows a much more professional attitude!
why couldnt you just say that rather than the name calling on my PM?
i disagree with the size, my ported boxes only take up .55 cu ft and a single 8 ported will out perform a sealed 10
of course a 10 would work well in 1.1-1.2 which is a lot less than a pair of 10's each using .75

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now that post shows a much more professional attitude!
why couldnt you just say that rather than the name calling on my PM?
i disagree with the size, my ported boxes only take up .55 cu ft and a single 8 ported will out perform a sealed 10
of course a 10 would work well in 1.1-1.2 which is a lot less than a pair of 10's each using .75
If I did not stand behind my products we would not back them with free shipping back to us for any reason! I will not say what you called me on your PM to me.If you had a professional attitude you would not have made the sfatements you made that called me a lier. I do not need help from a insurance agent that has not kept up with the new tech that has been out in the last 6 months. I will have to say that if you come to KY I will prove you wrong. I will bet 10000.00 that the public at large will prove you wrong on your 8 inch . As for your statement that the bass sounds better if the hatch is open - I want anyone with a bass in their trunk or hatch with a closed sub will try this .If I am wrong please let me know. I agree that ported will give you a deeper bass if it is next to the seats but it depends where it is placed. if it is not behind your seats and in the back - its the volune of the hatch or trunk that comes into play.
We will not on this site after the June first because will sell boxes on other sites and our own website and at the corvette shows. Come and here us before you pass judgement.
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Are you comming up to the homecoming in KY. We will have a booth there and I would like everyone to here our products there. As far as porting - It takes up much more room and ads alot more weight - I will agree with him on the dual is to close to the seats but I like the look and it sounds great. It is not the deepest bass bass but it does sound great. Our product is made for light weight and take up as small of a space as possiable. I will do a video and put on you tube ASAP- I would love compare a 8 inch ported to ours.
when is homecoming?
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when is homecoming?
I thinf in July but i will send the info- I will have the new box complete tomorrow and will send pics
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If I did not stand behind my products we would not back them with free shipping back to us for any reason! I will not say what you called me on your PM to me.If you had a professional attitude you would not have made the sfatements you made that called me a lier. I do not need help from a insurance agent that has not kept up with the new tech that has been out in the last 6 months. I will have to say that if you come to KY I will prove you wrong. I will bet 10000.00 that the public at large will prove you wrong on your 8 inch . As for your statement that the bass sounds better if the hatch is open - I want anyone with a bass in their trunk or hatch with a closed sub will try this .If I am wrong please let me know. I agree that ported will give you a deeper bass if it is next to the seats but it depends where it is placed. if it is not behind your seats and in the back - its the volune of the hatch or trunk that comes into play.
We will not on this site after the June first because will sell boxes on other sites and our own website and at the corvette shows. Come and here us before you pass judgement.
I had not called you a liar until now. You and I both know I did not reply to your PM I have no reason to call you names.
This is quite interesting. First you call me names in private and then you lie in public and say that I called you names in return. What would I have to gain from doing such nonsense?
I am not here to sell anything I have no reputation to protect, if I wanted to call you names I would do it here. What would be the point of doing something so childish in return?

I have no beef with you! I just personally would not buy any of your products and now that you have again and in a different way showed your immaturity you must understand that this post is certainly not doing your reputation any good!

The fact that you posted this after what I wrote was totally unnecessary! You just could let it go without having the last word!
Are you 8 years old?

I don’t need to hear your setup to pass judgment, 20 years experience messing in car audio and more than 1/2 of that for a living, building my own subs and doing installs for NFL players, showing and judging systems tells me that your sealed box with a couple 10" subwoofers is no different than any other sealed box with a pair of 10's and I've heard literally hundreds of them.
It takes absolutely no brains or creativity to make a sealed enclosure, stick a couple subs in it and power them up. It wouldn’t matter if you had a $1000.00 sub in there or how many watts you run it's still exactly the same!
Your f3 is still going to be well into the high 50's or low 60's depending on the sub. You can't change physics!

if you were really serious and actually had $10,000 to place a bet I would be happy to come take your money. 100 bucks would be believable and a friendly bet. going that high just makes you look stupid and insecure.

however this is a free country and your welcome to make a fool of yourself on a public forum. so go ahead and flame away! I could give 2 ****’s what you think about me, the suggestions I made or what you think my qualifications are.

a long time ago I sold boxes online called a power mouse do a search, there aren’t many posts left online mostly on Honda and acura forums. but I know how hard it is to sell audio products on the net. a lot of non believers but in my case my design was unlike anything anyone had ever seen, your just building sealed boxes, nothing special about that, once you have heard one you have heard them all.

if you keep this crap up and **** me off I may just build the box everyone here is asking for, molded to fit the rear of the vette, ported so it actually has some real bass and give the design to JL audio for free so they can mass produce it, market it and sell for a lot less than you can afford to make any money on yours with. trust me I know first hand how difficult it is to compete with the big boys! when they can afford to make stuff in china for a fraction of the cost and on a mass scale you’ll go broke pretty quick!

if you think I am kidding just try me! I personally know Manville Smith the Head of Marketing for JL audio. You don’t think he would be interested in a free R&D product I can send the plans to? look how many other boxes they sell. if it sells their subs I am sure they would be interested..

I already have 2 PM’s in my in box from 2 different folks from just this forum who have asked me if I will build the setup I have again. last time I gave a price to someone of 650 bucks just for the box he didn’t even flinch!

fortunately for me insurance pays me very well and for the money it’s a tough call as to whether or not I have the time or interest for that matter. but just to shut your yap up I just might!

so I suggest you drop this here and now! I was only trying to help give you some suggestions. if you don’t want them then fine! I don’t need this forum for financial gain, you do! The internet can be an ugly place to do business, it can also be a huge advantage! depending on how you interact with people and the things you say. So think about it. is it worth your reputation to make an as$ of yourself?
is it worth having the last word? sometimes not typing that nasty message will go a lot farther than just saying nothing and allowing your feelings and true personality get in the way.

think about it..

oh and why your at it, try a spell checker. I know I miss spell words a lot when I am in a hurry and don’t proof read. so don’t bother to tell me of my spelling mistakes cause there are a lot! But when your trying to market something and portray a professional image it helps a lot if you use proper grammar and make a reasonable attempt to spell correctly.

So let’s hear your reply! I can hardly wait! You got any new names to call me? You want to take another stab at my intelligence? Knowledge on the subject? Trust me I could school you all day long on this subject. Personally I would prefer that you say nothing and let this thread fade into the darkness for your own sake!
I am sure it’s eating at you! can you let it go and not get the final word in? can you just call me a name to yourself without actually typing it in a post or a PM?

We shall see… the way I see it, making any reply to this post will only make the situation worse unless you tell the truth that I did not PM you anything, call you any names ect..

I dare, no make that challenge! you to post a screen print of your in box with a message from me.. because we both know it simply does not exist!

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