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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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Default Sub and amp not working. Need troubleshooting help and tips!

Sub stopped working today. Noticed the bass was lower in the car, sure enough, no sub woofer output. I just recently installed a Pioneer X930BT (did it myself I might add- very proud of that as I'm a noob with all of this stuff). Sub was working fine since day one but now I'm not getting anything from it and the amp light is also off.*

Can anyone familiar with this head unit setup and a JL 10in. sub/amp combo help me trouble shoot what is going on? What should I check first? Thanks!
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get a meter. check from ground to the B+ terminal for 12 volts. Turn radio on check from remote terminal to ground for 12 volts.
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Also check fuses on amp, one of those is prob it.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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Thanks guys. Can anyone tell me about where the remote turn on might be wired to with a pioneer?
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On the amp terminals, the power wires should be obvious. The big + wire and the big ground wire should have 12vDC all the time (check inline fuse near battery if not), and the small wire (usually between the other two) will have +12vDC when the radio is on (if that one isn't hot it could be the radio).

Amp fuses should have single digit ohms from spade to spade, pull them out to check them.
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 07:05 AM
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Ok I'll check today. I really don't want to have to dig into my center console area again I've pulled that poor thing out more times than I can count LOL
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Ok pulled both 30a fuses from my amp and both were blown. Replaced both fuses with new ones and: NOTHING!! Amp won't turn on! Checked the remote power wire and it didn't show any power, but my wire checker might be wrong. I guess I'll be digging into my center console area again

Possibly the power wire came loose
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Do you have power on the big + wire powering the amp? If the amp fuses blew there's a good chance they took the B+ fuse with them (look next to the battery connection).
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The inline fuse by the battery is fine. I checked it when I replaced the fuses. I also pulled them out again and rechecked them. They were fine.

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I think a wire came unplugged from behind my radio.
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Originally Posted by forg0tmypen
I think a wire came unplugged from behind my radio.
That would explain why it's not on now, but doesn't really help with why you blew two 30a fuses on the actual amp. Only thing I can think of is if the wire was repeatedly making/breaking so fast that it overloaded the amp, but you prob would have noticed that.
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So I need a new amp you're saying?
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NO! Get the power wires working right if you can, then see if you can figure out with some certainty why the fuses blew.

You may even want to disconnect the amp trigger wire at the amp while working behind the radio.

One thing you can do now to check the amp... Cut a short piece of wire (about 4"), strip 1/2" off both ends, connect one end to the trigger terminal and pull the original trigger wire. Using an INSULATED HANDLE pair of pliers touch the other end of the wire to the big B+ terminal. The amp SHOULD come on, if the HU is playing it should have sound at your speakers.

If the amp fuses blow, it's prob time for a new amp unless you can find something wrong with the speaker wire connections, but that's unlikely if it just up and quit. However, I'd disconnect everything from the amp and give it one more try with new fuses, or just ohm the sub wires to verify 4ohms.
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Great idea!! I'm going to try that out. I'll report back! This happened a few months ago, and I remembered doing this. Thanks!
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a 10 dollar volt meter would help alot
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Ok I'm getting power from the remote turn on wire, but nothing from my battery wire. All fuses are good. I tried jumping a wore from the battery hookup on the amp to the remote turn on and got nothing. I'm not getting any power from the battery. That's what this tells me.
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Either a wire or connection is loose somewhere (very bad, car can burn down that way), or most likely the inline fuse near the battery is blown or not properly installed.

Use a voltmeter, start at the battery and check for 12v at each of the joints on that wire. Go all the way to the amp.

It could also be a bad ground, if you have gozintas without gozoutas there still won't be any flow. Check for resistance between amp - terminal and a metal ground on the car, should be single digit ohms.
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Im going to check the ground wire today. that might have come loose and blown the fuses...Ill check for power at the battery as well...

Here is a picture I took yesterday. My light came on when put up against the remote wire, but not anything else...
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That pic looks like the light is on with one lead on trigger and other on B+, that shouldn't be possible unless the B+ wire is grounded
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 04:57 PM
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Well, I grounded my light tester to other things and it still lit up with the remote wire but would NOT light up with the B+ wire when grounded to a metal screw on one end and put up to the B+ on the other. I just checked the ground, its tight and secure to the negative terminal of the battery. So is the power wire and in line fuse. Fuse is not blown. I was using my neighbors wire tester and hes not home now. Ill check to see if Im getting power from the battery positive terminal before the fuse...Could the fuse be bad even if it hasnt blown (metal strip in the middle isnt broken)
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