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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 10:36 PM
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I've recently installed a Nexus 7 into the dash of my 2013 427 vert. I'm trying to retain the steering wheel controls and have purchased and installed a Joycon EXR. after some tweaking and adding a few 10k ohm resisters I got everything working.... yah! Well... not so fast. Everything works as long as the car is running. As soon as I turn the car off it appears the change in voltage causes the joycon to miss the triggers.

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Has anyone successfully used one of these and if so how should I connect it to get a more consistent result? Thought this was going to be the easy part of the install.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 10:08 PM
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I have a high output alternator in my car, in the '07 I was having issues with the SWI programming while driving so I reprogrammed the buttons with the car running, problem solved while driving (originally programmed SWI with car off).

You could try programming the SWI with the car off (or on, the opposite of what you did before), maybe you'll get lucky.
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 08:19 AM
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Thanks for the reply. As you'll see in the video this is exactly what I did. After driving for a few days it has been very hit and miss if it even works while running. I've been watching the battery voltage and it works fine at 14.4 but if the electrical load increases (volume turned up) the voltage drops to 13.8-14.1 and the joycon starts to miss its triggers.

Very frustrating!!

I'm going to try to add a step down voltage device to 3.3v to see if that will help stabilize the system.
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 04:55 PM
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What about adding a capacitor to normalize the voltage. May have to re-map the voltages again once installed but I would think that would stop the issue.
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Kseiter, can you explain what you had to do to get the joy con to work? I'm trying to get one to work with my parrot asteroid smart on my 2013 but I can't get the joycon setup. When I press a steering wheel button the joycon shows the red line moving way to the right but all buttons look the same. I'm assuming that adding resistors fixed this for you? If so how many did you need and is it as simple as putting them inline in series on the white wire to the joy con?
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An update, I got it working in my car, I was an idiot and wired it up wrong. Pretty hard to do considering it's two wires... Anyway, hooked it up correctly and it's working. I have the volume up, volume down, back button, home button, psuedo mute (just repeats volume down for a second).

So far, I haven't had any issues with it not synching up when the car is off. I set it up with the car in Accessory mode and it works fine in accessory mode and when the car is running.
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Originally Posted by clyjr
An update, I got it working in my car, I was an idiot and wired it up wrong. Pretty hard to do considering it's two wires... Anyway, hooked it up correctly and it's working. I have the volume up, volume down, back button, home button, psuedo mute (just repeats volume down for a second).

So far, I haven't had any issues with it not synching up when the car is off. I set it up with the car in Accessory mode and it works fine in accessory mode and when the car is running.
What wires are you using? Do you have a PAC? If so what version? Still have the same issues and haven't been able to resolve them.

Thanks!
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You could try a voltage regulator chip like THIS ONE
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Shoot some pic's, I'd like to see how you did this. Particularly interested in how you hooked up the audio.
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Originally Posted by Gnarlyhawk
Shoot some pic's, I'd like to see how you did this. Particularly interested in how you hooked up the audio.
I'm using a custom nexus 7 rom to allow usb audio out and charging at the same time. The nexus is connected using a otg usb cable to a usb hub. The hub is then used to connect the joycon, external storage, power feed, and a usb DAC.

The DAC is the key for the audio. It converts the digital usb audio to analog RCA.

Here's the link to the wiki.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/37755-tim...ent-usb-audio/

Download page for the rom.
http://mehrvarz.github.io/nexus-7-usbrom/

This is the DAC I'm using
Amazon.com: Behringer UCA202 Audio Interface: Musical Instruments Amazon.com: Behringer UCA202 Audio Interface: Musical Instruments
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Originally Posted by markcz
You could try a voltage regulator chip like THIS ONE
I've thought about this but I shouldn't need it if I've connected it properly.
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I see, thanks. For mine, I have the ability to connect direct to my systems audio processor via Bluetooth. A new feature on the Rockford processor. You can also select inputs and eq profiles for your various inputs via remote dial switches. I haven't tried the Bluetooth and am uncertain of the quality just yet, so may have to consider dac solutions too.

I am intrigued to be able to easily tie my htc one or 7" T-Mobile springboard into the system, the potential cool things we can do are interesting to think about. Specially with 4g LTE capability!
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Originally Posted by markcz
You could try a voltage regulator chip like THIS ONE
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Originally Posted by Kseiter
What wires are you using? Do you have a PAC? If so what version? Still have the same issues and haven't been able to resolve them.

Thanks!
Originally Posted by Kseiter
I've thought about this but I shouldn't need it if I've connected it properly.
If it's not the SWI you're having issues with, what is it?
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 10:04 PM
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If it's not the SWI you're having issues with, what is it?

The issue is the voltage swing. The developer of the product suggested the 10k ohm resisters to help stabilize the voltage. Initially I had the issue listed where all swi buttons would max out the joycon. After adding the resisters I get different resistance from each button which is the desired and correct behavior. The issue is the varying voltage causing the trigger points to move around to the point whatever they no manger meet the target threshold.

The developer indicated that their should be no voltage from the swi wire and to isolate the source and cut it. I've heard of people making it work properly without and would just like to understand the solution so I can replicate it.

Thanks for the replies.
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Resistors in a DC circuit will drop the voltage seen at the other components in the circuit with them, but the voltage drop is proportional based on the resistor value as a % of the total circuit resistance. If voltage fluctuates, with a resistor installed it will just fluctuate at a lower value.

The chip that I linked to is a voltage regulator. If you install it on the line that puts power into the steering wheel buttons the voltage will stay constant at 12vdc (assuming the source never drops below 12v, which it shouldn't). You MAY have to also use it as the supply to the SWI itself, but I don't think so.

That would solve your problems
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Can't hurt to give it a try. Ill take a stab at it this weekend and will report back.
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I connected the A6 pin from the steering wheel to the joycon ground, and the A7 to the joycon. The A6 pin didn't have a connection on the Pac plug so I moved an unused pin (illumination maybe?) to the A6 spot. That way I didn't have to modify the factory wires. Next time I have the radio out I'll try to get pics.
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