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Old May 26, 2013 | 10:59 AM
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This is what the door speaker setup looks like:



The smaller 3.5" on the right is commonly referred to as a 'twiddler' because Bose combines the tweeter and mid range outputs into one speaker. Most Corvette owners can handle the tricky word play without having an aneurism. That speaker can be replaced with any 4ohm aftermarket speaker and it will make the system sound better.

The larger 8" on the left is the Bose door woofer. It has an amp designed just for it that's mounted behind the 3.5" speaker. That speaker can be replaced with aftermarket, but not with anything that will play the low notes as well or as loud as an oem replacement will. If you want better bass than that speaker will produce, you need to put a real sub in your trunk.

If your 8" Bose is blown, and you're opposed to a sub in the trunk, then you need to replace the pos sub with another used pos sub. If you do that, I would recommend that you also buy a mid-grade set of 3.5" aftermarket 2-way speakers to replace the twiddlers with since you'll be in the door anyway.

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Isn't that kind of like, "You can jump off the Empire State Building except for that landing"?
You make it hard to want to help you
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Old May 26, 2013 | 11:35 AM
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Or do 6.5 components up front a coaxial upgrade for rear and a cheap 4 channel amp
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Old May 26, 2013 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dadvan99
Double D Mods has C5 Corvette Speaker Upgrade Packages. All are plug & play.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/audi...w-choices.html
Plug and play is my speed. How much improvement over the 1LT speakers (for my '09) would they be? And just how easy is the install....?
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Old May 26, 2013 | 02:05 PM
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Tweeters are those small speakers that handle the High Notes. 1" or less in Diameter

Mids handle the "middle" notes, pretty much where voices and lots of music lies. 4-6" Diameter generally.

Woofers (Subs) handle all the notes below ~100Hz...of which there is plenty in most music. A proper Sub does not Boom-Boom. A proper Sub is matched to your system and accurately portrays what the music engineer wanted it to sound like. Only Kids have Boom-Boom Subs. My '95M3 has two 8" Subs in the Back Shelf and they are perfect. In some old Rush tracks I do see the glass moving...but no booming at all.

I'll be doing the entire system re-do next year, and using Dennis at DDmods for a lot of it. (8" Navigation/DVD etc) He knows Vettes and is quite honest and capable.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by markcz
This is what the door speaker setup looks like:



The smaller 3.5" on the right is commonly referred to as a 'twiddler' because Bose combines the tweeter and mid range outputs into one speaker. Most Corvette owners can handle the tricky word play without having an aneurism. That speaker can be replaced with any 4ohm aftermarket speaker and it will make the system sound better.

The larger 8" on the left is the Bose door woofer. It has an amp designed just for it that's mounted behind the 3.5" speaker. That speaker can be replaced with aftermarket, but not with anything that will play the low notes as well or as loud as an oem replacement will. If you want better bass than that speaker will produce, you need to put a real sub in your trunk.

If your 8" Bose is blown, and you're opposed to a sub in the trunk, then you need to replace the pos sub with another used pos sub. If you do that, I would recommend that you also buy a mid-grade set of 3.5" aftermarket 2-way speakers to replace the twiddlers with since you'll be in the door anyway.



You make it hard to want to help you
Well believe me, that's certainly not my intention. But after coming here a number of times and getting technobabble rather than help, spending two hours on the phone with Crutchfield only to end up with..."Nope, can't help you." I hope you'll understand my frustration.

What you just gave, that one little post explaining the Bose door woofer WITH a picture, is the single biggest amount of help I've ever gotten. Okay. I can see what everybody is talking about now.

You're telling me out of all those bazillion audio manufacturers, NOBODY can make a damn dinky *** 8" woofer to replace that POS? NOBODY??? That's just ..... unbelievable.

No, I'm not looking to add amps and subs and all that crap. I just want a speaker that doesn't buzz and distort. Just a LITTLE better than stock is all I'm looking for.
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Old May 26, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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Not gonna happen then without adding an amp. The sub was one off deigned for the c5 with its dinky Amp. No manufacturer is gonna make a replacement designed to work with the pos amp strapped onto the back of it

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Old May 26, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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Here is a concept, rather than put down/attack a vast majority of the people trying to help you, and with the attitude you display, it does make it tough, why don't you learn about the audio system and what it contains?
Some very simple searching will give you quite a nice education.

Almost all of us had to learn from scratch how to deal with the audio systems in these cars. Very, very few walked in the door with instant knowledge. many of us came from the C5 world and that audio system and it was so different form the C4 it was a learning experience for all of us. The C6 was a carryover, but many, many people have come from no knowledge to learning a great deal about the system by looking at what others did.
Bottom line you are looking for a simple upgrade that does not exist, several people have said it. All have given very clear instructions on what to do, and you seem to attack them.
Pentavolvo said it best, it simply does not get any clearer that what has been said. Time to educate yourself instead of biting the hand that feeds you

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Old May 26, 2013 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
Isn't that kind of like, "You can jump off the Empire State Building except for that landing"?
Since it appears all you really want to do is bitch about things just leave it alone and stop whinning or listen to the experts and do a simple upgrade by replacing the door speakers with the kit from Double D Mods, even someone like you should be able to do it, it's easy.
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Old May 28, 2013 | 01:53 AM
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OP,
Don't listen to Crutchfield, they have no idea about vettes. Listen to Mark, Pent, and DDMods. They know these cars, inside and out.

GM worked with BOSE(BLOWS) for an unknown reason and you either have to replace the old with same new crap or change everything. I know it sucks, but once you change everything out it will be night and day. Kind of like watching a old 9 inch black and white TV(Bose) and then a new 50 inch HDTV(upgraded stereo). Some people have replaced the 3.5 with aftermarket and then put new rear speakers in, but that will not sound that good. I am sure DDmods can set you up with a whole new system without a sub for about the price of new Bose crap. Get a new single din headunit(CD player in dash) and 6.5 inch Comp speakers(Mid and Tweeter) and new 6.5 inch speakers for the rear, use the headunit power to power the speakers. Yes a rewire will have to happen but its not a bad job. Plus you will get to know the car.
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Old May 28, 2013 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
You're telling me out of all those bazillion audio manufacturers, NOBODY can make a damn dinky *** 8" woofer to replace that POS? NOBODY??? That's just ..... unbelievable.

No, I'm not looking to add amps and subs and all that crap. I just want a speaker that doesn't buzz and distort. Just a LITTLE better than stock is all I'm looking for.
Almost all of those bazillion audio manufacturers CAN make a replacement woofer, but because of the low volume, and non-standard Bose design, it's not worth anyone's time to make something to replace it. They'd have to make them in really small batches, and sell them for $$$, and NOBODY would buy them.

The problem is - even though you're not looking to add amps and subs, you're dealing with a system that already has amps and subs... And they're non-standard, and not compatible with any other equipment. So since some of the amps and subs that already are in the car aren't working, you either have to replace them with the same stuff (so it's compatible) or replace the existing amps and subs, with new amps and subs. Or lose the existing amps and subs, and sacrifice some sound quality.

No one's looking to make you upgrade, but the options are pretty limited.
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Old May 28, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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Markcz and Pentavolvo, your advice and suggestions are spot on as usual.......and your patience is commendable. Please, know that your time is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Markcz and Pentavolvo, your advice and suggestions are spot on as usual.......and your patience is commendable. Please, know that your time is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Old May 29, 2013 | 11:06 PM
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Buy amps and subs. End of story.
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Old May 30, 2013 | 09:29 AM
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you all do know that corvette central has replacement factory speakers listed in the catalog. There are exact replacement and yes they have the bose sub.
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 02:21 PM
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I have a full set of Bose speakers that are in like brand new condition from my 03 I can sell to you if you just want to replace some worn out speakers. They are for sale in the C5 parts section. There is nothing wrong with them, I have just opted to go with a flux capacitor for my boom boom
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 10:53 PM
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Simple choice keep Ecklers/Midamerica in business buying overpriced oem items or upgrade.

The simplest analogy i could come up with was:
Wheel (speaker)-<>-Axle ( amplifier ) and trying to replace one of these on its own will result in having the wrong bolt pattern.
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