In the shop getting done up :)
#1
Burning Brakes
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In the shop getting done up :)
So .....I had a kenwood 9902s hu, JL 3-ways w/mid and mid bass in lower stock location and tweeter in stock mid location, kenwood coax in the rear, maddvette box w/10w3 installed by me
In the process....
Dynaudio 362s with tweeter glassed in pillar (may go active later).
Mosconi 200.4 bridged sending 640 a side up front.
Old school Alpine 20x2 running the rears
2nd Mosconi 200.4 with 2 ch bridged running 640 to the 10w3. 2 channels left open for future use.
Mosconi 4to6 DSP.
The amp rack was just a vague description. I told the installer to roll with it and surprise me. I trust him.
Over the summer will be a step up in the sub dept.
I'll post pics as they come
In the process....
Dynaudio 362s with tweeter glassed in pillar (may go active later).
Mosconi 200.4 bridged sending 640 a side up front.
Old school Alpine 20x2 running the rears
2nd Mosconi 200.4 with 2 ch bridged running 640 to the 10w3. 2 channels left open for future use.
Mosconi 4to6 DSP.
The amp rack was just a vague description. I told the installer to roll with it and surprise me. I trust him.
Over the summer will be a step up in the sub dept.
I'll post pics as they come
#5
Burning Brakes
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#6
Drifting
Nice! I am doing my install in my Z first part of January. I have two JL audio 10's and corner boxes for left and right corner. I am doing a Pioneer Avic-7200 HU with two Rockford Fosgate big power series amps with an amp rack on deck behind seats. I have 6.5" components for up front and 5 1/4 components for the rear, both high end Rockford that. Amps and speaks all came from prior install. I like the idea of 3-way up front. How did that turn out for you? I am excited about this install, esp. Since I am doing a full blown sound deadening at the same time. My Z has a lot of interior noise..way too much for my taste, esp. With a high end system installed.
#7
Burning Brakes
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I would look into glassing the tweeters into the a-pillars. The soundstage is too low with speakers in the doors. You can put the mid in the stock upper location if you go with 3-ways. Build your speaker mount out to get the speakers close to the grille. Make a ring out of closed cell foam to go around the speaker so it seals against the stock door grills. This will keep sound from bouncing around in the door panel.
Nice head unit! Time alignment in the radio works wonders...and that's a basic one. Mine will be bypassed this time and replaced with the Mosconi 4to6 DSP.
Do some DEI floor and tunnel shield on the tunnel to help heat while you are in there
Nice head unit! Time alignment in the radio works wonders...and that's a basic one. Mine will be bypassed this time and replaced with the Mosconi 4to6 DSP.
Do some DEI floor and tunnel shield on the tunnel to help heat while you are in there
#8
Drifting
I hear ya 100% on the soundstage issue. I always try and get the tweets up in the pillars if I can. With new head unit, Double D bezel, sub boxes, sound deadending and installation costs I am already dropping about 5K so I am using my old amps and speakers which are no slouch to at least get me going. I would like to upgrade speakers then later on and maybe add a DSP depending on how well the Pioneer handles things. Isn't Dynaudio and Mosconi some ultra high end stuff? I remember them producing high end drivers back in the day. I don't have any experience with them so was just wondering. I am anxious to see how this all turns out for you as I may plan the same 3 way set up upfront.
#9
Burning Brakes
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I got a ridiculous deal on the amps (about 1/2 price). They were 3 weeks old and already painted. The Dyns should sound fantastic. Mounting a 3" dome midrange (looks like a big tweeter) in the stock upper location took some trimming. They like power though. I'm running 640w per side to the front 3-ways
The DSP and a 20x2 old school Alpine amp for rear fill was piggy backed in the stock Bose amp location in the passenger footwell. I ran rears off the HU before but needed an amp in order to run them through the DSP this time around.
It should be done around feb or so. The owner and I discussed that the car will be used for 'fill in' during any slow days. I get a deal and I'm not driving it in the winter anyway.
The DSP and a 20x2 old school Alpine amp for rear fill was piggy backed in the stock Bose amp location in the passenger footwell. I ran rears off the HU before but needed an amp in order to run them through the DSP this time around.
It should be done around feb or so. The owner and I discussed that the car will be used for 'fill in' during any slow days. I get a deal and I'm not driving it in the winter anyway.
#10
Drifting
Damn, that sounds sweet. Keep us updated on the results. I agree with the lesser alpine amp for rear fill but 20x2? I am thinking you will be clipping the crap out of that amp and speaks at higher spl levels and it will not be a positive adder to overall sound. Am I missing something? My installer tried to talk me out of rear fill period and I just have had to disagree. I know you want a front sound stage with good imaging but I still love rear fill in an automotive application but it still has to be clean. How did you dial in with Mosconi? I am an old school car audio guy and there is so much new chit out now so just trying to catch up since the hey day of car audio.
#11
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Lol...I'm old skool as well. I had no clue about DSP and time alignment until last year. Some say you need a DSP to run rears correctly. Your DSP in the HU should do ok. I have kenwood coax in the rear. We will see if you are correct about clipping...I hope not My guess is the gain down on the amp as well. We had the rears faded out a lot when I ran them off the stock HU. As you know, you shouldn't be able to hear the rears...until they are gone.
My installer will dial in the Mosconi DSP by ear and a little RTA. That will be a base tune. I may use the 3 other presets to tweak his tune a little bit for my ears. He is an audiophile, I have been in a machine shop for 25yrs...I usually have to adjust some frequencies a little :/
My installer will dial in the Mosconi DSP by ear and a little RTA. That will be a base tune. I may use the 3 other presets to tweak his tune a little bit for my ears. He is an audiophile, I have been in a machine shop for 25yrs...I usually have to adjust some frequencies a little :/
Last edited by Curt D; 12-28-2016 at 12:58 AM.
#13
Melting Slicks
Hey whats up Curt, was just doing a little browsing and stumbled across you're thread, how is it coming along?
#14
Burning Brakes
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Ya know...I haven't been in there in a month lol. The owner texted me and said they were going to hit it good after the holidays and I prob miss it. I told him whether sitting my garage or his, it doesn't matter...it's winter anyway.
I just sent him pics of Commanders
I just sent him pics of Commanders
#15
Melting Slicks
Haha man I was playing with mine and thought the bass isn't hitting as hard as it should so I checked the amps and sure enough my installer had the amps turned all the way down. So after turning the sub amps 3/4 way up it hit so hard gave me an instant headache Thinking maybe I'm to old for this Sh&%t lol.
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Melting Slicks
#18
Burning Brakes
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Originally planned to make the rack out of wood but in order to keep it low they went to a steel frame. Just a mock up and to make sure it makes noise
#19
Melting Slicks
I decided on a dsp and I'm going with the JL Audio TWK 88, so my car will soon be going back in the shop for more mods.