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Old Aug 15, 2017 | 09:23 AM
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I'm kind of a newbie on car stereo stuff, I was wondering why I just can't run a thick ground wire right from the battery post and pick up ground on the head and equalizers from that wire, and then run it all the way to the amps in the trunk? Why do I have to pick up ground from the frame in the trunk?

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I'm kind of a newbie on car stereo stuff, I was wondering why I just can't run a thick ground wire right from the battery post and pick up ground on the head and equalizers from that wire, and then run it all the way to the amps in the trunk? Why do I have to pick up ground from the frame in the trunk?
You certainly could. The reason for not doing it is to save time and money and get the same result. 4 AWG wire costs (not much). And the time and pain of routing that additional wire through the firewall, concealed in trim back to where you need it doesn't make sense.
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You certainly could. The reason for not doing it is to save time and money and get the same result. 4 AWG wire costs (not much). And the time and pain of routing that additional wire through the firewall, concealed in trim back to where you need it doesn't make sense.
Well, theoretically you could reduce your wire size at each junction, couldn't you?
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It does not make sense to run a new ground wire from the battery to the head unit, it already has a ground. And you should not pick up the ground from the head unit and lead it to your amp, that wire is not good enough for that type of power.

You can run a 4 AWG wire from the battery to the amp or if multiple amps, to a ground distribution block. From that block, you can hook up the ground for all your amps.

One of the reason people don't ground at the battery is because of the old rule of keeping the ground wire as short as possible. From the battery to the amp that wire could end up being a 10-12 foot long while grounding to a near by bolt (or drilling your own) could be as short as 2-3 feet. I honestly don't know if the length of the ground wire makes a difference. Maybe there is a greater chance of a ground loop (whine sound) the longer the wire is, but that's just a guess because there are many factors that can cause a ground loop.

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Sorta true on length of grounding wire. The real reason is why use a wire (which has a high level of resistance) when you can use a grounding plane (which doesn't).

The also keeps your grounds "cleaner" as they are all common and the resistance is similar. Most high amp systems use the frame, body, or chassis ground plane (different cars use different grounding schemes).
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Well, theoretically you could reduce your wire size at each junction, couldn't you?
Kinda. But you would have to start with larger than 4 AWG at the battery. You need to end up with 4 AWG at the amp. That's what the amp requires.

Why the aversion to using a local grounding point?
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Kinda. But you would have to start with larger than 4 AWG at the battery. You need to end up with 4 AWG at the amp. That's what the amp requires.

Why the aversion to using a local grounding point?
I dunno, it just seems to me it would eliminate the potential for multiple return paths for the audio grounding system, since there is not a second path through the ground conductor, eliminating the possibility of a ground loop that would pick up mechanical noise. Are the front and rear chassis systems grounded together on a C5 vette?

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