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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 11:05 PM
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I have an e12a now and as you all know I am looking to get a new setup. Whatever I get will go in a sealed stealthbox. For you guys that have had different setups, how does 2 10's compare to 1 15 to 1 12. I have the e12a in a 1.0 cu ft box now but will put the 15a in a 1.5 cu ft box and the 2 e10o's in a box with .75 cu ft per speakerand give the subs about 900 watts or about 450 watts x 2. Which setup will give the best sq (tight bass) and low end ?

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There have been a few problems with the 15a and high power ported boxes...but since you are going sealed...definately the 15a over the two 10o's. It will play louder and deeper. Plus, that 15" nomex cone is just dead sexy. :lol: :cheers:
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The 15 in a good box will sound amazing. :cheers:
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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The funny thing is Ben from ED actually recommends the 2 e10o's for my situation. But you guys are right, there is something cool about having a 15" sub in the back. Hmmm.... :cool: :cheers:
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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I'd do 2 e10o's over a single e15a anyday of the week and twice on sundays.


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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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The funny thing is Ben from ED actually recommends the 2 e10o's for my situation. But you guys are right, there is something cool about having a 15" sub in the back. Hmmm.... :cool: :cheers:
Did he give any reasons? I have heard that the o's play deeper than the a's...
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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The funny thing is Ben from ED actually recommends the 2 e10o's for my situation. But you guys are right, there is something cool about having a 15" sub in the back. Hmmm.... :cool: :cheers: Did he give any reasons? I have heard that the o's play deeper than the a's...
Here is what Ben says about the ED line, for my application (power, box size )the best was the 2 e10o's. He actually told me in a later post, but I figured I would post this to show what he thinks about his line :

This really seems to be a misconception here guys.

One thing we probably need to make more clear is all of our drivers are simply built for Sound quality. No one really any more than the other.

The thing that really dictates which is best isn't really SQ or SPL wants. It's just simply application.

K, Sealed, vented.
O, Larger sealed. IB
A, Sealed, vented.

Inherently due to the applications we recommend them in the O's just do not have and will not have the thermal power handling of either of the other two drivers. One reason I think you'll see so many people running them with lower power.

There really isn't a tonal SQ difference between the lines, just more of a is this right for my application difference.

How much power are you currently using / will be using in the future?

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I'd do 2 e10o's over a single e15a anyday of the week and twice on sundays.


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Leo, why do you prefer 2 ed10o's over a 15a ?
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Here is what you said you wanted in the original post:

"Which setup will give the best sq (tight bass) and low end ?"

The e10o is very impressive with its low end frequency reproduction while at the same time being very transient (able to keep up with drum beats) and musical. The e10o doesn't "hit" as hard as a more SPL type speaker (Kicker L5), but it is a great SQL sub, proably the best I've heard. And you don't have to spend $$ and deal with the hassle of a JL10W7.

Even though 2 10" subs have slightly less surface area than a single 15, they will give you more transient bass, more of a "kick you in the chest" feel, and still achieve the sub 30 Hz range.

Unless you listen to mostly rap music where a 15 will give you that "low level vibration bass", it just doesn't reproduce typical rock/pop/country music the way it should be reproduced. There is too much of a "gap" between your 6.5" mid bass components and a huge 15" sub.

If space were not an issue I'd always go with 2 10" first, then a single 12", then a single 10", in that order.
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Default Re: Should I replace my e12a with an 2 e10o's or 1 e15a ? (leolufse)

So what you're saying is the 15 wont play 80hz very well?
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Define "well". Will a 15 play 80 Hz? sure. Will a 10 play 80 Hz? sure.

A single 15 playing an 80 Hz test tone sounds "different" than 2 10's playing an 80 Hz test tone.
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Should I replace my e12a with an 2 e10o's or 1 e15a ? (leolufse)

Here is what you said you wanted in the original post:

"Which setup will give the best sq (tight bass) and low end ?"

The e10o is very impressive with its low end frequency reproduction while at the same time being very transient (able to keep up with drum beats) and musical. The e10o doesn't "hit" as hard as a more SPL type speaker (Kicker L5), but it is a great SQL sub, proably the best I've heard. And you don't have to spend $$ and deal with the hassle of a JL10W7.

Even though 2 10" subs have slightly less surface area than a single 15, they will give you more transient bass, more of a "kick you in the chest" feel, and still achieve the sub 30 Hz range.

Unless you listen to mostly rap music where a 15 will give you that "low level vibration bass", it just doesn't reproduce typical rock/pop/country music the way it should be reproduced. There is too much of a "gap" between your 6.5" mid bass components and a huge 15" sub.

If space were not an issue I'd always go with 2 10" first, then a single 12", then a single 10", in that order.
Actually Leo I do listen to mostly Rap and Dance Music, but I do listen to Metal too. I do want my Rap to sound good also. I want the combo between tight bass and deep low end. That combo may be elusive.
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Default Re: Should I replace my e12a with an 2 e10o's or 1 e15a ? (leolufse)

Define "well". Will a 15 play 80 Hz? sure. Will a 10 play 80 Hz? sure.

A single 15 playing an 80 Hz test tone sounds "different" than 2 10's playing an 80 Hz test tone.
In output level maybe...but that depends on the box moreso than the woofer.

In a similarly aligned box with the same amount of output it should sound the same.
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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Soon will be the end of the flatcones from ED so I guess I want to make a decision fast, cause I love the way the flatcones look as well as the way they sound.
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and the way they crack... *cough* er.. I mean... I think they ran out and you're going to wait a long time again
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I believe they fixed the cracking problem on the 15a's and Ben said they still have some 15a flatcones in stock. This might make me make a decision before I really want to.
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Default Re: Should I replace my e12a with an 2 e10o's or 1 e15a ? (Mixman)

I've also heard that they fixed the cone cracking problem too...
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