keypad ignition in cup holder
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Racer
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From: dark side of the moon
keypad ignition in cup holder
found this key pad starter kill which would be cool to put in the cup holder next to the gear shift and then have a start button rigth next to it like in the movie the transporter. heres the link. im just wandering if there is a way around the chip in our keys and how hard it would be to put in a push button starter
http://www.autotoys.com/x/catalog/KE...TED_p_317.html
http://www.autotoys.com/x/catalog/KE...TED_p_317.html
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I had a friend that had that in his car, it's not very high quality and is a pain in the @$$.
A better idea would be to use a proximity sensor and matching key fob. just keep it on your keychain and when you get in your car it will detect the key fob and close a relay that will then let you press your start button.
I'm sure there are a lot of security issues involved with this (haven't really thought the whole idea through yet since i just thought this up), dont know how hard it would be to hack but I think the concept of this is much cooler.
A better idea would be to use a proximity sensor and matching key fob. just keep it on your keychain and when you get in your car it will detect the key fob and close a relay that will then let you press your start button.
I'm sure there are a lot of security issues involved with this (haven't really thought the whole idea through yet since i just thought this up), dont know how hard it would be to hack but I think the concept of this is much cooler.
Drifting
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Originally Posted by rustangkiller
found this key pad starter kill which would be cool to put in the cup holder next to the gear shift and then have a start button rigth next to it like in the movie the transporter. heres the link. im just wandering if there is a way around the chip in our keys and how hard it would be to put in a push button starter
http://www.autotoys.com/x/catalog/KE...TED_p_317.html
http://www.autotoys.com/x/catalog/KE...TED_p_317.html
Melting Slicks
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Kale is correct. The VATS has to be bypassed to remote start a GM vechicle. There are even VATS modules made by DEI but jumping a resistor across the wires is the easiest way. The wires you need are two small white wires in an orange tube under the dash coming from the key. Very easy to find.
The proximity sensor key fob idea...won't work. A proximity sensor has no ability to be coded to another piece of electornics. You would need a transponder type of system. Something that can sned and recieve coded signals. I have not seen anything like that but their could be something out there.
As for the key pads. As long as it is securely affixed to the dash you should have no problem with it. I have installed many of them with success. If you want to bypass using the key you will also need a latching relay to engage the ignition system. The key first powers the ignition system and then the starter system. Once the car starts the starter no longer has power and the key allows the iginition system to retain power and the accessory system also. Accessories do not power with ignition cycle. It is not impossible...really would be easy to do. Now you got me thinking...lol. Let me know if you have any other questions. I can put together a parts list and wire diagram.
The proximity sensor key fob idea...won't work. A proximity sensor has no ability to be coded to another piece of electornics. You would need a transponder type of system. Something that can sned and recieve coded signals. I have not seen anything like that but their could be something out there.
As for the key pads. As long as it is securely affixed to the dash you should have no problem with it. I have installed many of them with success. If you want to bypass using the key you will also need a latching relay to engage the ignition system. The key first powers the ignition system and then the starter system. Once the car starts the starter no longer has power and the key allows the iginition system to retain power and the accessory system also. Accessories do not power with ignition cycle. It is not impossible...really would be easy to do. Now you got me thinking...lol. Let me know if you have any other questions. I can put together a parts list and wire diagram.
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Originally Posted by EatRice
Kale is correct. The VATS has to be bypassed to remote start a GM vechicle. There are even VATS modules made by DEI but jumping a resistor across the wires is the easiest way. The wires you need are two small white wires in an orange tube under the dash coming from the key. Very easy to find.
The proximity sensor key fob idea...won't work. A proximity sensor has no ability to be coded to another piece of electornics. You would need a transponder type of system. Something that can sned and recieve coded signals. I have not seen anything like that but their could be something out there.
As for the key pads. As long as it is securely affixed to the dash you should have no problem with it. I have installed many of them with success. If you want to bypass using the key you will also need a latching relay to engage the ignition system. The key first powers the ignition system and then the starter system. Once the car starts the starter no longer has power and the key allows the iginition system to retain power and the accessory system also. Accessories do not power with ignition cycle. It is not impossible...really would be easy to do. Now you got me thinking...lol. Let me know if you have any other questions. I can put together a parts list and wire diagram.
The proximity sensor key fob idea...won't work. A proximity sensor has no ability to be coded to another piece of electornics. You would need a transponder type of system. Something that can sned and recieve coded signals. I have not seen anything like that but their could be something out there.
As for the key pads. As long as it is securely affixed to the dash you should have no problem with it. I have installed many of them with success. If you want to bypass using the key you will also need a latching relay to engage the ignition system. The key first powers the ignition system and then the starter system. Once the car starts the starter no longer has power and the key allows the iginition system to retain power and the accessory system also. Accessories do not power with ignition cycle. It is not impossible...really would be easy to do. Now you got me thinking...lol. Let me know if you have any other questions. I can put together a parts list and wire diagram.
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Racer
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From: dark side of the moon
well on my 94 it has a proximity unlock factory. if the alarm is set when i walk away it wont start unless it disarmed right? so would i just have to get a push button start and disarm the vats.
