C4 timkin bearing wear and autocrossing
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C4 timkin bearing wear and autocrossing
First off, I have read the tapered bearing thread, but as an A stock competitor I'm stuck with stock bearings. I've bought Timkin bearings for this car, about once a year now.
2 weeks ago I changed the bearings on the left side of the car and then drove 220 easy country miles , thinking that was enough to wear them in properly before doing the National Tour.
When I left the tour 6 runs later, a u joint in my axle was creaking. My mechanic is fixing the axle and let me know the seal on the rear bearing on that rear corner is leaking grease.
So, what does anyone think here? Is it a defective part? Or did I fail to drive on it enough before a racing event? Or worse, could the Hoosier A6's be so much grippier than 710s that they are shortening the life of the bearing this badly? Would GM bearings fare any better - (they are more than 2x the rock auto price.)
Thanks,
Barbara
2 weeks ago I changed the bearings on the left side of the car and then drove 220 easy country miles , thinking that was enough to wear them in properly before doing the National Tour.
When I left the tour 6 runs later, a u joint in my axle was creaking. My mechanic is fixing the axle and let me know the seal on the rear bearing on that rear corner is leaking grease.
So, what does anyone think here? Is it a defective part? Or did I fail to drive on it enough before a racing event? Or worse, could the Hoosier A6's be so much grippier than 710s that they are shortening the life of the bearing this badly? Would GM bearings fare any better - (they are more than 2x the rock auto price.)
Thanks,
Barbara
Last edited by Barbara_S; 06-16-2008 at 03:24 PM. Reason: typos
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There is no competitive advantage to the roller bearings, and since they weigh a little more, you could argue the opposite is true. The advantage is simply durability, and if you went to the Runoffs, you might want to put the OE bearings back on to save a little unsprung weight.
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Or did I fail to drive on it enough before a racing event? Or worse, could the Hoosier A6's be so much grippier than 710s that they are shortening the life of the bearing this badly? Would GM bearings fare any better - (they are more than 2x the rock auto price.)
Timken and GM are the same part as far as anyone can tell, I think. So no to that one.
New wheel bearings take a long time to break in. You'd be best getting some known good used ones as the race inside has had time to heat cycle and harden a bit. But even known good used ones are on borrowed time when running sticky tires.
You should probably expect to replace the hubs once a year at least if you do a lot of events.
My .02...
-John
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Hey Barb its Chris,
Have you thought of sending a letter to the SEB to see if you can get an overwrite or whatever the SCCA calls if to try and use the new tapered bearings?
I think if you write it out clearly in short words that continously states that there is NO competive advantage (and maybe a little letter from the manufacturer ghoffman might go a long ways) and this is only for because the OEM pieces fail regulary and you need longevity out of this critical part.
Also state what might happen if such a part was to fail on the course in a 1.3g turn and the safety ramifications.
Some food for thought.
Have you thought of sending a letter to the SEB to see if you can get an overwrite or whatever the SCCA calls if to try and use the new tapered bearings?
I think if you write it out clearly in short words that continously states that there is NO competive advantage (and maybe a little letter from the manufacturer ghoffman might go a long ways) and this is only for because the OEM pieces fail regulary and you need longevity out of this critical part.
Also state what might happen if such a part was to fail on the course in a 1.3g turn and the safety ramifications.
Some food for thought.
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No but we sell a tool that allows you to do it yourself, at home or at the track. It is not that hard to do:
http://hardbarusa.com/uploads/image/...%20rev1(1).pdf
http://hardbarusa.com/hardbar/produc...products_id=44
http://hardbarusa.com/uploads/image/...%20rev1(1).pdf
http://hardbarusa.com/hardbar/produc...products_id=44
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The Timken and OEM bearings look similar, but I don't believe they are since my experience has been that the OEM bearings last longer. None the less, tapered will be going on when the current set is trashed.
FWIW