Poly bushing question
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Instructor
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: Winterville GA
The facts:
1. Still need tires. Can't do the tires without the trailer! I do have an extra set of OEM wheels, but seems like I am learning everyone is running square 18's...correct?
2. A suspension set-up was a given. Poly bushings are on order.
3. Have not committed to TTA. I won't make that decision untill doing a few TT events. I have never really paid attention to the details at this point, I have only been a spectator while doing HPDE's.
The next two events will be a great learning experience.
Safety Car
Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Phoenixville, PA
Spend all the time you can talking to other competitors. You picked the right car as there is a huge knowledge base. You are in a tough region and will likely get spanked at first, do not despair.
I have found that people are generally bursting at the seams to talk about this stuff at the track, so take advantage of that. Not that everything you hear is correct, but it should give you something to think about.
I have found that people are generally bursting at the seams to talk about this stuff at the track, so take advantage of that. Not that everything you hear is correct, but it should give you something to think about.
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,418
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From: Macon, GA
Spend all the time you can talking to other competitors. You picked the right car as there is a huge knowledge base. You are in a tough region and will likely get spanked at first, do not despair.
I have found that people are generally bursting at the seams to talk about this stuff at the track, so take advantage of that. Not that everything you hear is correct, but it should give you something to think about.
I have found that people are generally bursting at the seams to talk about this stuff at the track, so take advantage of that. Not that everything you hear is correct, but it should give you something to think about.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 835
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From: Los Angeles CA
I saw someone else post in another thread that they had Delrin bushings on their C5 and he said they were fantastic. I don't remember who made them anymore but I tried getting in contact with them and never got a response.
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Drifting
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,937
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From: Mooresville NC
I'll politely disagree, but it is your money not mine. Just trying to give you some alternatives so you can spend your money on track time and not upgrades. Your car as it sits with a set of 275 A6s, a good seat/harnesses and Carbo pads (nothing else) is good for an easy high 1:30s at Road Atlanta, a hard driven 1:44 at CMP, a hard driven 2:08 at VIR Full and an easy 1:39 on VIR North.
No money has been spent that wasn't going to be spent anyway.
The facts:
1. Still need tires. Can't do the tires without the trailer! I do have an extra set of OEM wheels, but seems like I am learning everyone is running square 18's...correct? So put a set of good street tires on your four 17's and a set of track tires on your 18's. I run 100 treadwear 275s on a set of 17s and 275 A6's on set of 18s.
2. A suspension set-up was a given. Poly bushings are on order.
3. Have not committed to TTA. I won't make that decision untill doing a few TT events. I have never really paid attention to the details at this point, I have only been a spectator while doing HPDE's.
The next two events will be a great learning experience.
The facts:
1. Still need tires. Can't do the tires without the trailer! I do have an extra set of OEM wheels, but seems like I am learning everyone is running square 18's...correct? So put a set of good street tires on your four 17's and a set of track tires on your 18's. I run 100 treadwear 275s on a set of 17s and 275 A6's on set of 18s.
2. A suspension set-up was a given. Poly bushings are on order.
3. Have not committed to TTA. I won't make that decision untill doing a few TT events. I have never really paid attention to the details at this point, I have only been a spectator while doing HPDE's.
The next two events will be a great learning experience.
Racer
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,434
Likes: 18
From: Braselton GA
The other thing I've noticed (scott will back me up) from running my car stock vs not, is after bushings/shock bushings and set up, I got more useful (ie, faster) life out of the A6's. They were never as fast as they aged with the stock stuff, for whatever reason, you can be fast to the cords with a good set-up. Not sure of all the dynamics why.
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,418
Likes: 21
From: Macon, GA
I'll politely disagree, but it is your money not mine. Just trying to give you some alternatives so you can spend your money on track time and not upgrades. Your car as it sits with a set of 275 A6s, a good seat/harnesses and Carbo pads (nothing else) is good for an easy high 1:30s at Road Atlanta, a hard driven 1:44 at CMP, a hard driven 2:08 at VIR Full and an easy 1:39 on VIR North.
Drifting
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,937
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From: Mooresville NC
Just giving my personal times with my car, Greg.
Mark,
I understand the point you and Scott are making. I simply want to point out that you can be in the top half of the TTA field without all of that. Then again, my general rule is to upgrade something as it is needed or as it shows itself as the weakest link. Not before. I did enough of that crap with my Cobra and I wasted way too much money when I could have been driving.
-Kevin
Mark,
I understand the point you and Scott are making. I simply want to point out that you can be in the top half of the TTA field without all of that. Then again, my general rule is to upgrade something as it is needed or as it shows itself as the weakest link. Not before. I did enough of that crap with my Cobra and I wasted way too much money when I could have been driving.
-Kevin
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 6,855
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From: Grovetown GA
Just giving my personal times with my car, Greg.
Mark,
I understand the point you and Scott are making. I simply want to point out that you can be in the top half of the TTA field without all of that. Then again, my general rule is to upgrade something as it is needed or as it shows itself as the weakest link. Not before. I did enough of that crap with my Cobra and I wasted way too much money when I could have been driving.
-Kevin
Mark,
I understand the point you and Scott are making. I simply want to point out that you can be in the top half of the TTA field without all of that. Then again, my general rule is to upgrade something as it is needed or as it shows itself as the weakest link. Not before. I did enough of that crap with my Cobra and I wasted way too much money when I could have been driving.
-Kevin
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Instructor
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 216
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From: Winterville GA
Guys,
I appreciate all of the input. There is merit to all the points presented. But for me, the most important aspect remains getting the first TT under my belt and feeling comfortable in the car. Better handling was my first priority, (of course safety is a given). Therefore, I will have the poly bushings installed, and I will change the camber settings. Otherwise, the car will remain as it is meaning:
Larger sway bars, not T1.
Nitto tires, 555RII as on the car, 245, 305
Carbone Lorain CL Brakes, with castrol fluid, ss lines, etc.
Borla striaght pipes, Halltech intake...
TTS clasification - The results of the first TT won't matter, its about learning where I want to go in the future and getting in the game.
I started this thread, knowing I wanted a suspension improvement. I just wanted advice on the Poly-bushings, vs other alternatives and I think all of you have given me plenty of worthy advice.
Thanks again.
I appreciate all of the input. There is merit to all the points presented. But for me, the most important aspect remains getting the first TT under my belt and feeling comfortable in the car. Better handling was my first priority, (of course safety is a given). Therefore, I will have the poly bushings installed, and I will change the camber settings. Otherwise, the car will remain as it is meaning:
Larger sway bars, not T1.
Nitto tires, 555RII as on the car, 245, 305
Carbone Lorain CL Brakes, with castrol fluid, ss lines, etc.
Borla striaght pipes, Halltech intake...
TTS clasification - The results of the first TT won't matter, its about learning where I want to go in the future and getting in the game.
I started this thread, knowing I wanted a suspension improvement. I just wanted advice on the Poly-bushings, vs other alternatives and I think all of you have given me plenty of worthy advice.
Thanks again.
Pro
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 553
Likes: 4
From: Huntersville NC
Welcome to TT. I won't offer any advice as you have had plenty. I counted five guys that provided input that are in the fast to very fast category. And, 4 of them are good at turning a wrench and setting-up the car. The other may be as well, but I don't know that well.
Wish you were running TTA.
Good luck!
Wish you were running TTA.
Good luck!
Guys,
I appreciate all of the input. There is merit to all the points presented. But for me, the most important aspect remains getting the first TT under my belt and feeling comfortable in the car. Better handling was my first priority, (of course safety is a given). Therefore, I will have the poly bushings installed, and I will change the camber settings. Otherwise, the car will remain as it is meaning:
Larger sway bars, not T1.
Nitto tires, 555RII as on the car, 245, 305
Carbone Lorain CL Brakes, with castrol fluid, ss lines, etc.
Borla striaght pipes, Halltech intake...
TTS clasification - The results of the first TT won't matter, its about learning where I want to go in the future and getting in the game.
I started this thread, knowing I wanted a suspension improvement. I just wanted advice on the Poly-bushings, vs other alternatives and I think all of you have given me plenty of worthy advice.
Thanks again.
I appreciate all of the input. There is merit to all the points presented. But for me, the most important aspect remains getting the first TT under my belt and feeling comfortable in the car. Better handling was my first priority, (of course safety is a given). Therefore, I will have the poly bushings installed, and I will change the camber settings. Otherwise, the car will remain as it is meaning:
Larger sway bars, not T1.
Nitto tires, 555RII as on the car, 245, 305
Carbone Lorain CL Brakes, with castrol fluid, ss lines, etc.
Borla striaght pipes, Halltech intake...
TTS clasification - The results of the first TT won't matter, its about learning where I want to go in the future and getting in the game.
I started this thread, knowing I wanted a suspension improvement. I just wanted advice on the Poly-bushings, vs other alternatives and I think all of you have given me plenty of worthy advice.
Thanks again.
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,418
Likes: 21
From: Macon, GA
Welcome to TT. I won't offer any advice as you have had plenty. I counted five guys that provided input that are in the fast to very fast category. And, 4 of them are good at turning a wrench and setting-up the car. The other may be as well, but I don't know that well.
Wish you were running TTA.
Good luck!
Wish you were running TTA.
Good luck!
Racer
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
From: Long island NY
Phoenix machines the bushings themselves. i do not want to quote their price on the forum but they are three times the cost of poly. Give Joe a call at Phoenix - he is a top noch guy. I love the feel of the bushings, so glad I did it and NO noise or grease issues to deal with.
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,418
Likes: 21
From: Macon, GA