I need fresh air. Help me out with info on your set up.
#1
Racer
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I need fresh air. Help me out with info on your set up.
Hello again guys. I need your help again. To give you some back ground I have been tracking my street cars since 02. I have now been tracking and racing (only 1 race) a C5. It has all the safety gear from a rollcage to a 5 nozzle fire system. I'm having issues with heat. The fire suit plus the balaclava is burning me up. I do have a cool suit that helps but it seem the lack of fresh air is the problem. After only three 20 minutes sessions, the nose area of the balaclava was grey to a light black color from breathing in the air.
When I was tracking my street car with just a helmet. The heat or the air quality wasn't an issue. Now being wrapped up from head to toe in a three layer fire suit and all the gear, has me searching for a functional clean air source.
How do you bring fresh air into your race car? How do you deal with heat? Pictures of your system would be great. Pic's of naca ducting mounting points to routing the hose, to what ever you do to bring fresh air in would be appreciated.
When I was tracking my street car with just a helmet. The heat or the air quality wasn't an issue. Now being wrapped up from head to toe in a three layer fire suit and all the gear, has me searching for a functional clean air source.
How do you bring fresh air into your race car? How do you deal with heat? Pictures of your system would be great. Pic's of naca ducting mounting points to routing the hose, to what ever you do to bring fresh air in would be appreciated.
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If you need run some NACA ducts from the passenger window, and run some tubing over and point it at you. You can also try a helmet cooler as well (which requires a new helmet).
I have 3" air intakes right above each mirror and at full bore thats a LOT of air. Most of the time I only use the drivers side one which is ziptied to the cage so I can move it easily.
I have 3" air intakes right above each mirror and at full bore thats a LOT of air. Most of the time I only use the drivers side one which is ziptied to the cage so I can move it easily.
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If you need run some NACA ducts from the passenger window, and run some tubing over and point it at you. You can also try a helmet cooler as well (which requires a new helmet).
I have 3" air intakes right above each mirror and at full bore thats a LOT of air. Most of the time I only use the drivers side one which is ziptied to the cage so I can move it easily.
I have 3" air intakes right above each mirror and at full bore thats a LOT of air. Most of the time I only use the drivers side one which is ziptied to the cage so I can move it easily.
#4
Safety Car
Interesting... my car is a 100% race car with fire suppression etc. etc. etc. and I wear a all the gear and balaclava as well.
For me my cool-shirt is liquid heaven and keeps me plenty cool. I don't have any issues breathing in bad/hot air in the Corvette. However, I've taken a few steps to keep the cabin cooler:
1. Painted the whole interior white
2. Wrapped the H-pipe in header wrap
3. Installed DEI heat shield in the entire tunnel
4. The car is sliver (as opposed to black)
These things keep a lower air temp in the cabin to the point I don't need an extra air source. I have driven other race cars that are much hotter and Have done the NACA duct on the A-pillar and holes in the rear lexan to make air flow through the cabin... works great.
For me my cool-shirt is liquid heaven and keeps me plenty cool. I don't have any issues breathing in bad/hot air in the Corvette. However, I've taken a few steps to keep the cabin cooler:
1. Painted the whole interior white
2. Wrapped the H-pipe in header wrap
3. Installed DEI heat shield in the entire tunnel
4. The car is sliver (as opposed to black)
These things keep a lower air temp in the cabin to the point I don't need an extra air source. I have driven other race cars that are much hotter and Have done the NACA duct on the A-pillar and holes in the rear lexan to make air flow through the cabin... works great.
#5
Le Mans Master
I would get hotter than hell in my car on those 100* days until I finally figured out how to route the hose. I installed a clear NACA duct (doesn't interfer with sight line) on the passenger side between the A pillar and the outside rear view mirror and ran tubing from that duct up to and over the inside rear-view mirror and dumped it right in front of my face. Works like an air conditioner for your face. You must keep your face shield open to get the benefit, but the air is plentiful at speed.
Be sure and wear some safety goggles since every pebble/track turd/rock, sand pebble or small bird will find its way into that duct and right into your face.
I have to plug up the duct during cold weather since the air is pretty cold.
I'll post pictures tonight of how mine is routed.
Be sure and wear some safety goggles since every pebble/track turd/rock, sand pebble or small bird will find its way into that duct and right into your face.
I have to plug up the duct during cold weather since the air is pretty cold.
I'll post pictures tonight of how mine is routed.
#6
Safety Car
I would get hotter than hell in my car on those 100* days until I finally figured out how to route the hose. I installed a clear NACA duct (doesn't interfer with sight line) on the passenger side between the A pillar and the outside rear view mirror and ran tubing from that duct up to and over the inside rear-view mirror and dumped it right in front of my face. Works like an air conditioner for your face. You must keep your face shield open to get the benefit, but the air is plentiful at speed.
Be sure and wear some safety goggles since every pebble/track turd/rock, sand pebble or small bird will find its way into that duct and right into your face. I have to plug up the duct during cold weather since the air is pretty cold.
I'll post pictures tonight of how mine is routed.
Be sure and wear some safety goggles since every pebble/track turd/rock, sand pebble or small bird will find its way into that duct and right into your face. I have to plug up the duct during cold weather since the air is pretty cold.
I'll post pictures tonight of how mine is routed.
#8
Le Mans Master
Here you go:
I noticed you had a glass roof, so that is turning your car into a microwave oven. After removing the headliner out of my car it got hotter than hell while sitting in grid so I installed some silver bubble insulation. That helped a bunch and cut the temp inside the car. You might try that on yours.
I noticed you had a glass roof, so that is turning your car into a microwave oven. After removing the headliner out of my car it got hotter than hell while sitting in grid so I installed some silver bubble insulation. That helped a bunch and cut the temp inside the car. You might try that on yours.
#9
Racer
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I noticed you had a glass roof, so that is turning your car into a microwave oven. After removing the headliner out of my car it got hotter than hell while sitting in grid so I installed some silver bubble insulation. That helped a bunch and cut the temp inside the car. You might try that on yours.
#10
Drifting
All great ideas above
I have a cool shirt but decided it wasn't enough so I went ahead with a helmet blower, it has a filter just before the blower motor so hopefully it will catch any debri, I ran a 45 minute race in Memphis in July about 98 degrees ambient. My legs got a little warm but the helmet blower really helped me.
I have a cool shirt but decided it wasn't enough so I went ahead with a helmet blower, it has a filter just before the blower motor so hopefully it will catch any debri, I ran a 45 minute race in Memphis in July about 98 degrees ambient. My legs got a little warm but the helmet blower really helped me.
#11
Racer
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All great ideas above
I have a cool shirt but decided it wasn't enough so I went ahead with a helmet blower, it has a filter just before the blower motor so hopefully it will catch any debri, I ran a 45 minute race in Memphis in July about 98 degrees ambient. My legs got a little warm but the helmet blower really helped me.
I have a cool shirt but decided it wasn't enough so I went ahead with a helmet blower, it has a filter just before the blower motor so hopefully it will catch any debri, I ran a 45 minute race in Memphis in July about 98 degrees ambient. My legs got a little warm but the helmet blower really helped me.
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the tubing is just your average high temp hose, routed to a fan (which is great for when you are standing still in the pits. and then over to the trans tunnel. When I'm moving, I don't use that one at all.
#14
Pro
All great ideas above
I have a cool shirt but decided it wasn't enough so I went ahead with a helmet blower, it has a filter just before the blower motor so hopefully it will catch any debri, I ran a 45 minute race in Memphis in July about 98 degrees ambient. My legs got a little warm but the helmet blower really helped me.
I have a cool shirt but decided it wasn't enough so I went ahead with a helmet blower, it has a filter just before the blower motor so hopefully it will catch any debri, I ran a 45 minute race in Memphis in July about 98 degrees ambient. My legs got a little warm but the helmet blower really helped me.
Where did you find the clear plastic piece that you mounted in the window. I am looking to add some fresh air to my car for 2012 but can't find that air intake part.
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