Track pad with best wear rate
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Track pad with best wear rate
I'm gradually getting faster at HPDEs and now go through about 50% of my front XP10s over the two days (stock c5z06 calipers). The XP10s have enough bite for me, but I'm wondering if there is something with a better wear rate. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks,
Chris
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I've got DRM ducts and Quantum spindles. Also have hardbrakes titanium heat shields (seem to help fluid but not pads). Maybe XP10 is as good as it gets?
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That sounds about right using stock brakes. That's been my experience over the last 2years with the XP10s...and that was also the case with the Hawk DTC 70s I used, and the XP12s I now use. I don't believe there's a miracle pad out there that will dramatically increase longevity. If you're driving hard, and that seems to be the case, then that's about all you'll get. I recently took a set of XP12s to about a 64th of an inch in 4 days of track use. I think a big brake kit will increase longevity and improve braking, but I haven't calculated the cost effectivness yet. As I age, I'm finding I am willing to spend more $ to reduce the time of maintaining the car at the track
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I run Carbotech xp12 front on my StopTech ST60 BBK and see great wear. Xp10 rear on stock grand sport/z06 calipers. Very happy with this setup. Xp10 up front may not take heat as well as xp12. Check with Carbotech Adam and he will help you. Proper pads also depend on what tires ou are running.
If you are serious and in this for the long run, consider a big break kit up front, cooling ducts, and castrol SRF brake fluid.
If you are serious and in this for the long run, consider a big break kit up front, cooling ducts, and castrol SRF brake fluid.
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The RP2™ compound was engineered for endurance racing based on our highly successful XP™ Series formulations. RP2™ is our longest lasting compound that we offer. RP2™ has strong initial bite, a little less modulation than our XP12, but still maintains the rotor friendliness of our XP™ series compounds. With a good initial bite and one of the most consistent torque curves in the market the RP2™ compound is easy to keep a consistent bite and torque throughout the braking zone. Great fade resistance with a temperature range of 250°F to 1650°F+ (121°C to 898°C). RP2™ is as rotor friendly as our XP™ series compounds. Carbotech™ RP2™ is NOT recommended for use as a daily driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.
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Endless brake pads are known to have much longer life. I've also heard people get good results with Cobalt pads, too.
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Just ran Raybestos (47/45 compound split) at Watkins Glen for a two-day event (total of 10 30min sessions) and saw very little wear. Have another event coming up, and can report more findings.
My DTC-70/60 setup would last for two or three 2-day events. Also have Colbalt and Carbo pads sitting around, just haven't tried them yet.
EDIT: this was on stock calipers with no ducting, backing plates, or caliper mods.
My DTC-70/60 setup would last for two or three 2-day events. Also have Colbalt and Carbo pads sitting around, just haven't tried them yet.
EDIT: this was on stock calipers with no ducting, backing plates, or caliper mods.
Last edited by Hat_Trick_Hokie; 06-03-2013 at 11:25 AM.
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I run Carbotech xp12 front on my StopTech ST60 BBK and see great wear. Xp10 rear on stock grand sport/z06 calipers. Very happy with this setup. Xp10 up front may not take heat as well as xp12. Check with Carbotech Adam and he will help you. Proper pads also depend on what tires ou are running.
If you are serious and in this for the long run, consider a big break kit up front, cooling ducts, and castrol SRF brake fluid.
If you are serious and in this for the long run, consider a big break kit up front, cooling ducts, and castrol SRF brake fluid.
#12
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I was running XP12/XP10's on stock calipers with ducting, SKF hubs, and lines. I was getting 3 days out of the 12's, and 5 on the 10's. This included street driving too/from track.
On the AP Kit I'm running XP20/XP10. The kit is the same size rotor wise but the calipers are bigger and the pads are thicker. So why am I not seeing more life? Well, because now I am standing on the brakes and it stops. Before I would get a fair amount of knockback and the calipers just couldn't handle the heat so I couldn't brake as hard. Now, I am braking VERY hard. So despite having more pad I'm braking harder and later on every corner now so I'm wearing them out quicker. I was hoping they would last me another entire weekend over what I was getting but I'm not seeing it.
My home track is Sebring and is very hard on brakes. Probably one of the worst in the country so pads don't last long for me. I'm sure there are less aggressive pads out there but then you probably won't stop as well so it's a trade off. The thing I like about the Carbotechs is the dust easily wipes off (I tried a set of Forado Uno's and they were awful) and they work well on the street.
I would be curious to see if a 14" Stoptech kit using the same pads would last longer. My gut tells me yes because of cooling size.
Last edited by JeremyGSU; 06-03-2013 at 01:12 PM.
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That is why I am running ST60 up front. AP T1 is a nice kit but I don't think calipers are as large or cool as well. ST60 is probably best bang for buck for 6 pot caliper and rotor/pad replacement cost is reasonable. I am just fine with OEM rear calipers and Centric rotors.
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Just ran Raybestos (47/45 compound split) at Watkins Glen for a two-day event (total of 10 30min sessions) and saw very little wear. Have another event coming up, and can report more findings.
My DTC-70/60 setup would last for two or three 2-day events. Also have Colbalt and Carbo pads sitting around, just haven't tried them yet.
EDIT: this was on stock calipers with no ducting, backing plates, or caliper mods.
My DTC-70/60 setup would last for two or three 2-day events. Also have Colbalt and Carbo pads sitting around, just haven't tried them yet.
EDIT: this was on stock calipers with no ducting, backing plates, or caliper mods.
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The RP2™ compound was engineered for endurance racing based on our highly successful XP™ Series formulations. RP2™ is our longest lasting compound that we offer. RP2™ has strong initial bite, a little less modulation than our XP12, but still maintains the rotor friendliness of our XP™ series compounds. With a good initial bite and one of the most consistent torque curves in the market the RP2™ compound is easy to keep a consistent bite and torque throughout the braking zone. Great fade resistance with a temperature range of 250°F to 1650°F+ (121°C to 898°C). RP2™ is as rotor friendly as our XP™ series compounds. Carbotech™ RP2™ is NOT recommended for use as a daily driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.
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The StopTech's I put on my Z06 do reduce pad costs significantly.