alignment gurus come inside please....
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Drifting
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Also will intentionally do differential alignments based on track.
Racer
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Racer
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From: Boston MA
I only managed to achieve F -2.2 1/8 toe out R -1.3 11/32 toe in at the factory ride height. Going to lower the car and get more but if needed I will hit the cradle out. I would like to achieve -2.7F/-1.8R. I would just prefer not to sacrifice suspension geometry to get the numbers I want, Ideally I would like to lower the as little needed to achieve those numbers.
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For my own sanity. Are they the camber bolts in the top right in the attached photo. I got my vette 2 weeks ago and I'm looking for more camber.
I only managed to achieve F -2.2 1/8 toe out R -1.3 11/32 toe in at the factory ride height. Going to lower the car and get more but if needed I will hit the cradle out. I would like to achieve -2.7F/-1.8R. I would just prefer not to sacrifice suspension geometry to get the numbers I want, Ideally I would like to lower the as little needed to achieve those numbers.
I only managed to achieve F -2.2 1/8 toe out R -1.3 11/32 toe in at the factory ride height. Going to lower the car and get more but if needed I will hit the cradle out. I would like to achieve -2.7F/-1.8R. I would just prefer not to sacrifice suspension geometry to get the numbers I want, Ideally I would like to lower the as little needed to achieve those numbers.
Cradle bolts attach THE CRADLE to THE FRAME.
Camber bolts attach the CONTROL ARM to THE CRADLE.
If/when you move the cradle what you gain on one side you lose on the other. You CANNOT gain neg. camber on BOTH sides by moving a single piece cradle, think about it.
Moving it is only of use if your potential adjustment (usually negative) on one side is grossly different from the other. This typically means the car was wrecked & the frame bent. Straighten the frame & start over.
Check my videos as I am pretty sure I show the cradle being dropped when I removed the steering rack.
Racer
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No, camber bolts are camber bolts. Cradle bolts are cradle bolts.
Cradle bolts attach THE CRADLE to THE FRAME.
Camber bolts attach the CONTROL ARM to THE CRADLE.
If/when you move the cradle what you gain on one side you lose on the other. You CANNOT gain neg. camber on BOTH sides by moving a single piece cradle, think about it.
Moving it is only of use if your potential adjustment (usually negative) on one side is grossly different from the other. This typically means the car was wrecked & the frame bent. Straighten the frame & start over.
Check my videos as I am pretty sure I show the cradle being dropped when I removed the steering rack.
Cradle bolts attach THE CRADLE to THE FRAME.
Camber bolts attach the CONTROL ARM to THE CRADLE.
If/when you move the cradle what you gain on one side you lose on the other. You CANNOT gain neg. camber on BOTH sides by moving a single piece cradle, think about it.
Moving it is only of use if your potential adjustment (usually negative) on one side is grossly different from the other. This typically means the car was wrecked & the frame bent. Straighten the frame & start over.
Check my videos as I am pretty sure I show the cradle being dropped when I removed the steering rack.
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Drifting
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If you do not have a good repeatable way of measuring both Camber and Caster & do not understand alignment principals as related to both, do not touch anything.
Racer
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The cradle seems easy enough with a 2 post. I just wanted clarity on the actual bolts that where being discussed. I've been diy alignments for awhile now. I just do not want to slam the car to ruin the geometry and get the car in fighting form for SSR.
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I would not bother either just to even things out.
You are going to find that it's not "that" easy to shift it & you may need to grind off the alignment pins to do it.
I would not do that.