Alignment Shifted at the Track
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
Alignment Shifted at the Track
This past weekend I was out at the track for the first time with my C5Z.
Halfway through first session, I noticed my steering wheel was not straight anymore while going down the straight away. I pitted out, jacked the car up, and did inspection. Everything seemed tight: wheel wiggle test, lugs, etc. I proceeded to take caution next session, but everything was fine and I was able to pick up the pace quite a bit and rest of the day went OK despite off center steering wheel.
When I came home, I did more thorough validations. My eccentrics were marked and they did not shift at all and were properly torqued. The steering rack bolts are tight. Subframe bolts tight. Tie rods look ok and adjustment nuts are tight.
I'm sort of out of ideas and feel concerned I cannot find the root cause. I'm looking for the help/ideas from the knowledgeable folks in forum, much appreciate any input!
Car setup:
-Mild cam
-Full Exhaust
-K&N Intake
-B&M shifter
-Raybestos ST-43 pads
-DRM/LG Brake duct setup
-DRM Bilstein shocks
-18x9.5" / 19x11" with 275/305 Toyo R888 running about 34-35psi hot.
-Track alignment (-3* front camber, some toe-out, -1.5* rear camber, some toe-in)
-Sparco steering wheel, Sparco seats, Schroth 6pt harness, Brey kaurs harness bar
Halfway through first session, I noticed my steering wheel was not straight anymore while going down the straight away. I pitted out, jacked the car up, and did inspection. Everything seemed tight: wheel wiggle test, lugs, etc. I proceeded to take caution next session, but everything was fine and I was able to pick up the pace quite a bit and rest of the day went OK despite off center steering wheel.
When I came home, I did more thorough validations. My eccentrics were marked and they did not shift at all and were properly torqued. The steering rack bolts are tight. Subframe bolts tight. Tie rods look ok and adjustment nuts are tight.
I'm sort of out of ideas and feel concerned I cannot find the root cause. I'm looking for the help/ideas from the knowledgeable folks in forum, much appreciate any input!
Car setup:
-Mild cam
-Full Exhaust
-K&N Intake
-B&M shifter
-Raybestos ST-43 pads
-DRM/LG Brake duct setup
-DRM Bilstein shocks
-18x9.5" / 19x11" with 275/305 Toyo R888 running about 34-35psi hot.
-Track alignment (-3* front camber, some toe-out, -1.5* rear camber, some toe-in)
-Sparco steering wheel, Sparco seats, Schroth 6pt harness, Brey kaurs harness bar
#3
Melting Slicks
If the lower control arm moves in front, it changes toe and steering wheel.
Do a ride height check, My Z28 did that with a broken front shock. It also did it when I bent a rear lower control arm bracket and the rear end was crooked in the car.
Do a ride height check, My Z28 did that with a broken front shock. It also did it when I bent a rear lower control arm bracket and the rear end was crooked in the car.
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Check the bushings in both the upper and lower control arms. The front bushings on my 97 slipped over time with both the upper and lower control arms moving rearward on the bushings which upset camber, caster and toe without ever changing the cams.
Bill
Bill
#5
Instructor
Doesn't look like it but look at mark on top, completely moved!
#7
Instructor
Thread Starter
Whoever mentioned check rear of the car gets a cookie
Both rear eccentric bolts slipped by several degrees. Thankfully the shop marked the eccentrics so I was able to set them back to where they should be. I will go for a drive and see how the car feels.
I think this would explain why the rear of the car felt rather lose all day, especially on corner entry. I also noticed I need more rear camber as I wore the outside edges a tad past the arrow on R888.
Thanks everybody for your input!
Both rear eccentric bolts slipped by several degrees. Thankfully the shop marked the eccentrics so I was able to set them back to where they should be. I will go for a drive and see how the car feels.
I think this would explain why the rear of the car felt rather lose all day, especially on corner entry. I also noticed I need more rear camber as I wore the outside edges a tad past the arrow on R888.
Thanks everybody for your input!
Last edited by r0nd3L; 08-23-2015 at 08:11 PM.
#9
went off track on sat. I didn't hit anything but it was a violent drive over the rumble strips into the grass and back on. Noticed Sun that my steering wheel also was off and to the left. Will look at it this week but glad I saw this thread.
#10
Race Director
You said in the original post:
"When I came home, I did more thorough validations. My eccentrics were marked and they did not shift at all and were properly torqued. The steering rack bolts are tight. Subframe bolts tight. Tie rods look ok and adjustment nuts are tight."
Glad you found it.
#12
Melting Slicks
I would like a dozen chocolate chip cookies please, I need to keep my figure up. I'm hella fast in the left handers.
Split them with you Mdavis7
Split them with you Mdavis7
Last edited by FASTFATBOY; 08-24-2015 at 12:05 AM.
#13
Instructor
Thread Starter
You said in the original post:
"When I came home, I did more thorough validations. My eccentrics were marked and they did not shift at all and were properly torqued. The steering rack bolts are tight. Subframe bolts tight. Tie rods look ok and adjustment nuts are tight."
Glad you found it.
#14
Instructor
Thread Starter