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I saw some early chatter right after the rules were released about a few folks that were planning to join.
I thought it'd be fun to get some of the cars/drivers/mods all in 1 thread and then as the season goes on maybe we can put some screennames to faces!
I'll start:
2002 C5 Z06 I'm teaming up with Ryan Finch as a codriver for most of the midwest events and nationals. Hoping he can actually show me what the car is capable of: http://bangshift.com/bangshiftapex/b...ptima-detroit/
I am very possibly in for CAM in the near future. Like Brian, I will have to buy a set of 18s and some proper tires if I take the leap. 96 C4, 396 LT4, VBP Xtreme springs, rear anti-squat relocation brackets, and some other suspension and brake stuff. Full interior, full weight, a true street driver (been my daily driver for the past three weeks while I fixed my true DD).
My only other real option in SCCA classes is SSM, and that pax is much worse and I'd need A6s. That means a tire trailer and changing tires at the event. I'm not sure I'm up for that these days. CAM S seems more suited to my car and me. I'll just have to resign myself to the idea that a much faster Vette could show up, and if any Cobra shows up (350lb weight break for that!?) then I'm automatic toast. But hey, for now it's just about fun for me (it's been almost eight years since I last competed, so we'll see how long that just-for-fun thing lasts).
ETA: This will be in and around the St. Louis area.
Last edited by MatthewMiller; 01-21-2016 at 04:22 PM.
I am very possibly in for CAM in the near future. Like Brian, I will have to buy a set of 18s and some proper tires if I take the leap. 96 C4, 396 LT4, VBP Xtreme springs, rear anti-squat relocation brackets, and some other suspension and brake stuff. Full interior, full weight, a true street driver (been my daily driver for the past three weeks while I fixed my true DD).
My only other real option in SCCA classes is SSM, and that pax is much worse and I'd need A6s. That means a tire trailer and changing tires at the event. I'm not sure I'm up for that these days. CAM S seems more suited to my car and me. I'll just have to resign myself to the idea that a much faster Vette could show up, and if any Cobra shows up (350lb weight break for that!?) then I'm automatic toast. But hey, for now it's just about fun for me (it's been almost eight years since I last competed, so we'll see how long that just-for-fun thing lasts).
Cobras are beatable. I've been as close as .3xx on an 80+ second course to Scott Fraser, the current CAM-S national winner. C4's are better suited than the c5's. Just gotta work at it.
2006 Z06 Street /Track car. Some of the following mods are currently being installed or updated before the start of this season. I will have updated pics when it's done in the coming weeks. Target weight is 2,975 pounds and ~600 rwhp
We competed in Optima's Search For The Ultimate Street Car series last year and plan to run a few CAM S events this year. The car also sees 7-10 track days per year
This pic is before the LG hood, rear spoiler and a few other of the mods currently being installed.
Engine:
Katech 427 12.5:1 on 100 octane
WCCH Stage 3 Heads (Ti/Mo Intake and Exhaust valves, PSI springs)
ARE 4 Stage dry sump, Spintric, Setrab coolers
MSD Intake / NW 102 Throttle Body, LS9 Injectors. Hand Ported by Tony Mamo
Halltech CAI
Alum Radiator / Upgraded Cooling Fan
Setrab power steering cooler
Long Tubes (no cats)
Burns Stainless Exhaust
Quarter Master Clutch (Danny Popp / RAFT Racing Special)
Suspension / Brakes
LG GT2 Coil Overs
LG Drop Spindles
LG sway bars
LG Mono Ball Bushings
LG Camber Kit
GM/Brembo Carbon Ceramic Brakes
Finspeed F14 wheels 18x11(f) 18x13 (r)
Rival S 315/335 Tires
Drivetrain / Body:
LG Carbon Fiber Vented Hood
Katech Splitter w/ Under tray and brake ducts
Custom Rear Spoiler
Upgraded Transmission Internals (Carbon blockers, billet keys, shift forks, etc...)
Solid Mounts (Engine, trans, diff)
Dedicated Setrab Trans/Diff Coolers
Sparco EVO 2 Seat
Sparco Steering Wheel
RSD Roll Bar / Crow Harness'
Aim SOLO 2 / Smarty Cam
Last edited by RichieRichZ06; 01-21-2016 at 12:53 PM.
Cobras are beatable. I've been as close as .3xx on an 80+ second course to Scott Fraser, the current CAM-S national winner. C4's are better suited than the c5's. Just gotta work at it.
Given the variables of driver skill, any car is beatable. But if you're comparing a 3300lb C4 to a 2650lb (ballasted up) Cobra with rearward weight bias, then that's a huge advantage to the Cobra. Given equally talented drivers, the Cobra is an easy pick. The reality is that I'm not gutting my car enough to even get down to the 3000lb minimum for Corvettes. But even if I did, it would be tough to beat an equally prepped Cobra.
I'm curious why you say the C4 is better suited. I'm not sure one way or the other, so I'm really asking. I know the C5 can easily get down to 3000lbs, which is an advantage over a C4. The C4 has a much shorter wheelbase, which may benefit autocrossing. Can you expand on your thoughts about this?
Given the variables of driver skill, any car is beatable. But if you're comparing a 3300lb C4 to a 2650lb (ballasted up) Cobra with rearward weight bias, then that's a huge advantage to the Cobra. Given equally talented drivers, the Cobra is an easy pick. The reality is that I'm not gutting my car enough to even get down to the 3000lb minimum for Corvettes. But even if I did, it would be tough to beat an equally prepped Cobra.
I'm curious why you say the C4 is better suited. I'm not sure one way or the other, so I'm really asking. I know the C5 can easily get down to 3000lbs, which is an advantage over a C4. The C4 has a much shorter wheelbase, which may benefit autocrossing. Can you expand on your thoughts about this?
The other issue is the Cobra he's talking about also has 850 HP and a lot of other mods.
The other issue is the Cobra he's talking about also has 850 HP and a lot of other mods.
I've seen the vids. I'm convinced the power is almost worthless at autocross speeds over what I have (I have maybe half that or a bit more at the wheels). But yeah, Cobras are an almost blank canvas for almost any suspension someone wants to run. And that certainly can make a difference!
Given the variables of driver skill, any car is beatable. But if you're comparing a 3300lb C4 to a 2650lb (ballasted up) Cobra with rearward weight bias, then that's a huge advantage to the Cobra. Given equally talented drivers, the Cobra is an easy pick. The reality is that I'm not gutting my car enough to even get down to the 3000lb minimum for Corvettes. But even if I did, it would be tough to beat an equally prepped Cobra.
I'm curious why you say the C4 is better suited. I'm not sure one way or the other, so I'm really asking. I know the C5 can easily get down to 3000lbs, which is an advantage over a C4. The C4 has a much shorter wheelbase, which may benefit autocrossing. Can you expand on your thoughts about this?
The shorter wheelbase is the main reason, the abs is less intrusive and doesn't it also have a narrower track?
Back when we were running BSP our C4 was about just as fast as a super stock C5Z.
With the "no rules" of CAM you can get pretty much anything you want, but you'd have to do a lot of work to make a C4 as fast a stock C5Z.
If you go to an LS motor to get the weight out of the front of the car, strip it ll down, put light weight hood on it, stiffen the frame rework the rear suspension it could be faster, but for all that work you might just as easily buy a C5 and have a much better platform as a starting place. John Carriere had the data on how much the front frame on the C4 twists and the amount of camber loss that is there is really amazing. Not saying you can't do it, but it's going to be a lot of work.
We got our BSP car down to about 3100 lbs so if within the CAM rules (or lack of same) you could probably get down to the weight limit. And yes the wheelbase is shorter and there are things a C4 will do that you can't do in a C5, but I don't see that for an equal amount of work the C5 is probably going to be any faster.
Of course If you jack up the VIN plate and change everything under it you can get there, but at what cost of labor and time?
The real key would be to get more than 50% of the weight on the rear wheels and I don't know if you could do that with the weight of the C4 platform.
01-19-2016, 11:07 PM
SCCA CAM S What are you running?
