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Old 02-25-2016, 08:41 AM
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What helmet do you recommend for occasional track driving?
Old 02-25-2016, 08:55 AM
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There are a number of good brands out there but I would recommend a "full-face" design for track days. Most track organizers will want you to run with the side windows open. Than can allow stuff to get into the car and hit your face. A full face helmet with a shield will keep you from getting stung by the junk tossed up by tires of other cars or even your own tires.

The SA2015 rated helmets are out but you can find some good online deals on SA2010 closeouts.

Look at G-Force, Pyrotect, Bell, and Simpson.
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The one that fits your head???
You can go from super light - $$$$$$$$$
or light - $$$$
or medium - $$$
or heavy - $$$

The SA 2015 Bell full face with a wide eyeport cost about $350. Its light enough for me and fits my head.

Want to cheap out - find a SA 2010 on clearance that fits. Thats how I got my first helmet, picked up an SA2000 (a loooonnnnngggg time ago) on clearance and saved $100. That helmet is long gone and my SA2005 is out of date, can't drive on track this year without a SA2010 or SA2015 (for most groups).

Do NOT get a motorcycle helmet - you will be disapointed when you o to a track and they say "I sent you 10 emails and each one said a minimum of SA2010, sorry, see ya next time"
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Originally Posted by jaa1992
The one that fits your head???
That's the most important. My buddy bought one that he thought fit for 30 seconds when in the store, and then when he wore it for a longer period of time it was tight enough that it gave him headaches.

I have a GForce carbon fiber one and am very pleased with the way it fits and how light it is.
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Originally Posted by Bad Karma
That's the most important. My buddy bought one that he thought fit for 30 seconds when in the store, and then when he wore it for a longer period of time it was tight enough that it gave him headaches.

I have a GForce carbon fiber one and am very pleased with the way it fits and how light it is.
Second on this. Best advice I got was to wear the helmet around the store for 15-20 min. I know, sounds dumb. But you would be surprised at the variance in what brands comfortably fit different head shapes. I wS really interested in Bell, but found that they just didn't fit me right.
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Depends on you.

I have some asthma and wear glasses, so I have an open face helmet. I use the Bell Sport Mag and love it.

If it doesn't bother you, then full face is best of course.

Also, get something as lightweight as possible.

Don't forget about neck bracing. Find an RS3 if you can. Again, that's what i use and I love it...can't even tell it's on, and you don't need racing seats/harnesses for the neck protection.
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I just bought a G-Force and will NOT buy another one. Defective HANS attachment point and they wanted me to pay for overnight shipping to get to an event in 2 days. Finally told me it they would overnight and then shipped it ground. Customer service was very ineffective in handling this.
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Originally Posted by jaa1992
You can go from super light - $$$$$$$$$
or light - $$$$
or medium - $$$
or heavy - $$$
"
I've never seen it described better.
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ZAMP has the lowest priced open & full face SA approved helmets.
Use an SA 2010
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Originally Posted by FKING1
ZAMP has the lowest priced open & full face SA approved helmets.
Use an SA 2010
If it fits, the Zamp is a great helmet for a good price - about $180 for their full face SA2015 model, and less than $150 for an SA2010. The Zamp open face SA2015 is $155. Yeah - they're made in China.

I have a Zamp SA2005, SA2010, and SA2015, but as was mentioned, most organizations will only accept the current certification period or the one previous, so an SA2010 will be good for 5 years until the 2020 certifications are performed.

Some people may say "do you think your head is only worth $180???"

However, if a helmet is Snell certified, you don't know whether a $3000 helmet is any better than the $170 helmet - they both meet the same Snell standards.

If you'll be doing endurance racing in an allout race car where you're dong a 2 hour driving stint and a couple lateral G's in every turn then you want the big-$$$$$ lightweight one.

I find the Zamp to be great for my 25 to 30 minute sessions at the 6 or 8 track events I go to each year.

But - it's all about the fit!! As others have said, wear the helmet for a while to make sure it's comfortable for you.

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The most important thing is the fit. Here are some instructions from the Snell Foundation about how to check the fit. Also a lot of other helmet stuff.

btw - As long as you're buying a helmet think about a HANS device as well.

Richard Newton
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Originally Posted by rfn026
...btw - As long as you're buying a helmet think about a HANS device as well.
Richard is absolutely correct!!

Butt....I think most all of the head/neck restraint systems sold these days require a harness system installed in your car. To my knowledge, they all require shoulder harness straps over each shoulder in order to work.

I have an R3 Rage that was made by Safety Solutions that can be used with any seatbelt - including stock 3-point factory seatbelts. But Simpson bought the Safety Solutions line and apparently has discontinued that product (except perhaps in a child size), and the Hybrid series of their head/neck restraints seems to require a shoulder harness system just like a HANS device does.

So....as nice as it is to have a HANS device, or other head and neck restraint, if you only track a few times a year and don't have a harness system with shoulder straps, then you can't use most of the products out there.

The old R3 Rage I have is nice because it works with a stock factory seatbelt, and even if you have a harness system in your own car, if you instruct in a student's car with the factory 3-point seatbelt you can have head/neck restraint while instructing in their car.
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I was at Simpson yesterday and they have the equivalent of the r3 rage on display on there storefront. Advertised fairly prominently.

Let me find a photo.


My concern is wouldn't this just break your back as opposed to neck? Whereas the Hans allows the seat to absorb the impact.

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I would recommend a SA (auto) helmet, a 2015 standard, if possible. Depending on the DE Organizer, they may not accept M (motorcycle) helments (they tend to be cheaper, with greater variety).

I liked the price of the G-force but couldn't get the helmet to fit. The Bell Sport fit perfectly. This really is a try it, before you buy it kind of item.
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I had read that Zamp helmets fit better for round shaped heads. I just tried their RZ-58 SA2015 full-face and that statement was exactly correct. It seemed to be a good fit for rotation but sat way to high on my oval shaped head.

Then I tried on my old SA2000 G-Force and it sits a little lower. Next my GMax M2005 which sits even lower for the best fit of the three (but allowed a little more rotation).

All were size medium. I think there would be too much rotation if I went to a large Zamp.

Any idea which brand is more suited to an oval head?
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Originally Posted by Rx7Rob
I had read that Zamp helmets fit better for round shaped heads. I just tried their RZ-58 SA2015 full-face and that statement was exactly correct. It seemed to be a good fit for rotation but sat way to high on my oval shaped head.

Then I tried on my old SA2000 G-Force and it sits a little lower. Next my GMax M2005 which sits even lower for the best fit of the three (but allowed a little more rotation).

All were size medium. I think there would be too much rotation if I went to a large Zamp.

Any idea which brand is more suited to an oval head?
Try the Bells, I had the exact same issue with Gforce.
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Amazon.com: RaceQuip 273005 Gloss Black Large PRO15 Full Face Helmet (Snell SA-2015 Rated): Automotive Amazon.com: RaceQuip 273005 Gloss Black Large PRO15 Full Face Helmet (Snell SA-2015 Rated): Automotive

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Originally Posted by BEZ06
If it fits, the Zamp is a great helmet for a good price - about $180 for their full face SA2015 model, and less than $150 for an SA2010. The Zamp open face SA2015 is $155. Yeah - they're made in China.

I have a Zamp SA2005, SA2010, and SA2015, but as was mentioned, most organizations will only accept the current certification period or the one previous, so an SA2010 will be good for 5 years until the 2020 certifications are performed.

Some people may say "do you think your head is only worth $180???"

However, if a helmet is Snell certified, you don't know whether a $3000 helmet is any better than the $170 helmet - they both meet the same Snell standards.

If you'll be doing endurance racing in an allout race car where you're dong a 2 hour driving stint and a couple lateral G's in every turn then you want the big-$$$$$ lightweight one.

I find the Zamp to be great for my 25 to 30 minute sessions at the 6 or 8 track events I go to each year.

But - it's all about the fit!! As others have said, wear the helmet for a while to make sure it's comfortable for you.

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Agree with that 100%. I have a Zamp and do usually 3 HPDEs a year. Great cost for my use, but the most important thing was that it fit. As everyone already said, MAKE SURE IT FITS, or you will regret the purchase.
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It used to be that all helmets came in regular hat sizes but now the lower priced ones come in small, medium and large while the more expensive helmets still come in regular hat sizes. If you want a good low cost helmet that fits go to a shop that sells several different brands since small, medium and large are different for the different brands. When I was looking for my 2010 helmet I tried a medium Simpson, a large Simpson a medium Impact and a large Impact. The medium Impact helmet was the one that fit me the best although it was a little tight. The Simpson medium was way too small and the large felt like my head was rattling around in it. The Impact was a 1320 full face version. The price of those is competitive with the low range Simpson, Bell, G Force Helmets. If you want to go top end then look at Stilo. They are comfortable, light, have ear muffs inside so you can mount your radio system and are generally a top of the line helmet. Earnhardt Junior uses one. Low end Stilo will cost you at least $800 with the top of the line helmet being in the I could buy a car cheaper than that category. I have tried Stilo's on several times and they feel great but I just didn't want to spend that much. https://www.hmsmotorsport.com/products/stilo-helmets

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One really interesting thing I learned from working with Snell is that different ethnic groups have differently shaped heads. That just means you better try one on before you buy it. What fits one person may not fit another.

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