EdsC6Z06

I only do the occasional track day, but would like to continue living so looking at getting a HANS device. Which one? Size? I'm 6'1" and 210. (I do have a harness bar and harnesses)

Best place to purchase? Looked at SafeRacer.

Bill Dearborn

I purchased mine at a shop that could install it as well. They usually supported the events I went to so I purchased right at the event, they recommended the size, installed the mounts, had me get in the car and then adjusted the belts so they fit properly with the HANS. There was no extra cost for the setup but I knew it was done correctly.

Bill

SouthernSon

I have a hans and a hybrid. Most Hans devices don't do much for side impact thus the reason for halo's on the upper part of track seats. However, the hybrid does give some protection for side loads for those without halo restraints. Since most track day vehicles have no halo (restricted view, especially without a spotter) there are times the hybrid is probably better. It offers protection even with only factory 3 point belts. I got mine from Craig at this link. He attends quite a few track days so you might be able to get one adjusted by him without extra charge.

http://www.usracegear.com/page/482254548

UrbanKnight

I had a Hans carbon one, was nice and light, but not comfy.

I switched to a Necksgen and love it... Good mobility, lateral protection, and comfy to boot!

Charley Hoyt

I have had three carbon fiber HANS devices and they have all been great. It seems like most if not all professional drivers use the HANS... If it's good enough for the Pros it's good enough for me.

Charley

Last C5

+1 for the Necksgen.

TrackAire

I have a Necksgen, don't have any experience with the other types.

I do know this, as soon as I start driving, I don't even realize that I'm wearing it.

Bad Karma

I am interested in this new neck restraint:

https://www.schrothracing.com/competition/shr-flex/shr-flex-hnr

johnny c

i'm in the safety biz. i can brake it down.

#1 hans owns the rights to the sliding tethers. all other manufactures have a triangulated tethers to get around the patent.
to me as a driver that sliding tether makes all the difference. while driving i never notice my hans, until i do something stupid.

#2 the triangulated tethers are marketed as side impact protection, and they shouldn't be. a human body can only take 25-45G before you become hamburger. that can happen in a 40mph crash. you want your seat to absorb side impacts and decelerate your body to reduce the G load your body absorbs. what you don't want is your upper body to decelerate your head, this puts more G load on your upper body. side loads need a seat with a halo or a seat with a net.

a good place to buy US Race gear, Vengence road racing, XP performance, jdp motorsports.


90% of the people that buy a hans get a medium 20.
guys who enjoy the gym and have some real "lats" need a large.
if you have a formula car (lying down seating position) get a 30* if you have a GT can and a formula car get the adjustable hans.

blkbrd69

You mention harness bar and harness. Do you have a race seat?

SouthernSon

[QUOTE=Johnny C @ OG;1591871730....you want your seat to absorb side impacts and decelerate your body to reduce the G load your body absorbs. what you don't want is your upper body to decelerate your head, this puts more G load on your upper body. side loads need a seat with a halo or a seat with a net.

........[/QUOTE]

No argument here with that. However, it is not a perfect world where most of the participants drive in HPDE's. There are few halo and/or nets to be found. The hybrids do offer some angular protection. They don't answer all sudden stops. But, then, neither do the HANS devices in a perfect racecar. We must remember most of the drivers on this forum do not drive a well setup racecar.

johnny c

in cars with as much power as ours it's silly to not have a halo fia seat. they bolt in with 4 bolts, and it's cheap when you consider the consequences. that and the stock ones are down right slippery.

c5racr1

Got a fia halo seat and a necksgen. Going to a HPDE event this weekend, will report back.

SouthernSon

Another consideration for seats and head restraints is to make sure the seat will accommodate the restraint. A straight seat back can be dangerous with the HANS.

tmtraylor

Two questions for you, SouthernSon.
1. By "Straight seat back" do you mean: use a race seat designed with space / volume to accommodate the HANS?

2. You brought up a good point for instructors. I have a halo seat, belts, harness bar and HANS for my car, but when I'm in a students car I'm back to square one with three point belt and no HANS. Adding a Hybrid to the gear bag addresses that scenario. Do you just swap your helmet/ communicator setup for each session?

Thanks for the advice!

UrbanKnight

Not to step on Southern Son's toes, but I bought a cheap nice racequip helmet and mounted my communicator electronics in that helmet and use it exclusively for instructing. If I have only one student, I'll leave it with him/her, that way I am not running all over swapping gear and such...

Although you do bring up a good point, I do not use my neck restraints in student cars, unless I was getting into a full prep car, then I'd have to use my helmet setup for it.

johnny c

he means like this

EdsC6Z06

My seats are Caravaggio Daytonas which do have the belt holes in the back but not a slot for sub belts. There is a recess in the center of the lower cushion, but it's not that deep to put the sub belts tight against the inner leg. Just want to be reasonable safe in an HPDE off track mishap if one were ever to occur.

SouthernSon

Although Johnny brings up another consideration for correct seat alignment with the belts, one also has to consider the relief area in the back of the seat for allowing freedom of movement and no interference. As far as using the hybrid and hans with the same helmet mountings I have no problem. The Simpson hybrid accommodates the same. I can use my full face or open face with either one. I prefer the open face for instructing with the hybrid. The open face is safer with radio communications failure but I always wear protective glasses.

Miguel S

I just bought my Hans, one word of caution about the seat and corresponding Hans angle. My Cobra Sebring is mounted like RX-Ben mounted his, fairly reclined to increase headroom and tuck under the B-pillar as much as possible. I was looking at the Hans III because of the price and weight, but it only comes in a 20deg position. Fortunately I brought the car with me to buy it. We went out to the car to try it out and the Hans III was too upright and I ended up with the adjustable set at 25deg. Basically 5 degrees could make a difference in fitting the car or not. I was interested in the Schroth HNR because it fits any angle, but I didn't want to be a Guinea Pig.