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Hi:....so I was talking to my buddy about his '63 vert this am......he was telling me how he has the interior apart and is doing the whole thing......starts telling me about the carpet and how the early midyears have a dozen or so pieces of carpet compared to the later mid-years....my question is.......since his is NOT an NCRS style car.....would the newer mid-year carpet fit (would be alot easier) or is the floor a different shape?
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I know that early '63s had a different floor from later '63s. Whether the late '63s were different from 64-67 I don't really know.
But what's the big deal? Isn't it better to have a proper fitting carpet if he's going to the trouble of doing it at all?
If you ask me, Chevrolet converted to the fewer-piece, molded carpet only for cost savings and not for a better fit or look. The '63 carpet, being a more expensive, labor-intensive installation gave it a better finish.
Your friend should be happy he "gets" to use the multi-piece solution.
After all, he did choose Corvette's BEST year !!!
But what's the big deal? Isn't it better to have a proper fitting carpet if he's going to the trouble of doing it at all?
If you ask me, Chevrolet converted to the fewer-piece, molded carpet only for cost savings and not for a better fit or look. The '63 carpet, being a more expensive, labor-intensive installation gave it a better finish.
Your friend should be happy he "gets" to use the multi-piece solution.
After all, he did choose Corvette's BEST year !!!
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Mr Seaside...thanks for the input...it never occurred to me GM only changed the carpet only for cost savings, not for look or fit......I presume your thoughts would be the same for the disc brakes and all the other changes GM has made to vehicles over the years....like I always say....you can find a luddite anywhere
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Hank,
unfortunately, there are MANY items that are 1963 only - with that thought in mind, your friend needs to decide if he wants the car to have the correct look, fit, etc. or is he just functionally wanting to car to be a driver, and doesn't really care - basically, you get what you pay for!!!!!
unfortunately, there are MANY items that are 1963 only - with that thought in mind, your friend needs to decide if he wants the car to have the correct look, fit, etc. or is he just functionally wanting to car to be a driver, and doesn't really care - basically, you get what you pay for!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Hank Kimball
Mr Seaside...thanks for the input...it never occurred to me GM only changed the carpet only for cost savings, not for look or fit......I presume your thoughts would be the same for the disc brakes and all the other changes GM has made to vehicles over the years....like I always say....you can find a luddite anywhere
Appreciate the help
Appreciate the help
My point wasn't that changes are bad. My point was that the multi-piece carpeting produced a superior fit and appearance.
Is your friend named "Bubba" by any chance?
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Originally Posted by Hank Kimball
Hi:....so I was talking to my buddy about his '63 vert this am......he was telling me how he has the interior apart and is doing the whole thing......starts telling me about the carpet and how the early midyears have a dozen or so pieces of carpet compared to the later mid-years....my question is.......since his is NOT an NCRS style car.....would the newer mid-year carpet fit (would be alot easier) or is the floor a different shape?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Hank Kimball
Hi:....so I was talking to my buddy about his '63 vert this am......he was telling me how he has the interior apart and is doing the whole thing......starts telling me about the carpet and how the early midyears have a dozen or so pieces of carpet compared to the later mid-years....my question is.......since his is NOT an NCRS style car.....would the newer mid-year carpet fit (would be alot easier) or is the floor a different shape?
Thanks
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Hmmm
I thought the question was clear.....since the '63 has already been converted to discs and a few other more modern (not better of course) mechanical changes, I didn't figure an easier (and better) carpet install would bring down the sky.....ie: if and when (I think never) "bubba" was ever to want to sell his car....if some buyer could get past the brakes maybe he just might not notice the "incorrect carpet",
The comment-point regarding the C-5 just went "ping" right off this thick skull of mine......don't get it
Thanks, appreciate the opinions
The comment-point regarding the C-5 just went "ping" right off this thick skull of mine......don't get it
Thanks, appreciate the opinions
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Originally Posted by Hank Kimball
The comment-point regarding the C-5 just went "ping" right off this thick skull of mine......don't get it
Your post about Luddites seemed to infer that anyone that couldn't appreciate modern improvements was stuck in the past. Following that logic would lead one to the conclusion that the newest version of the line must therefore be the "best". Thus, if one believed that way then perhaps they would be happier with a 2005 than a 1963.
Now, it may well be that the 2005 Corvette is the best ever (and I lean that way myself) but 1963 Corvettes are still pretty cool and lots of fun to look at and ride around in.
Obviously the changes made over the years made some things better and others worse. Craftsmanship is the one main thing that has suffered.
My only point in the whole conversation is that if one is going to the trouble of replacing the carpeting in their car, why would they not want to take the time to do an extra nice job and make it as beautiful as they can?
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Last post on this topic.....honest
"Obviously the changes made over the years made some things better and others worse. Craftsmanship is the one main thing that has suffered."
Sorry to disagree, don't mean to be disagreable......but.......my 05' Avalance is 100,000% better in every single way, except one (styling) than anything 40 years old.....every single way.....its better engineered and way better built.......those unionistas didn't want to do any work...so the companies invented computers and robots to do it for them.....now it takes about 1/20th as many people to build a vehicle....
I like the C-2 for styling....not craftsmanship....my car is way better now than when it came off the 'line forty years ago....
Thanks again
Sorry to disagree, don't mean to be disagreable......but.......my 05' Avalance is 100,000% better in every single way, except one (styling) than anything 40 years old.....every single way.....its better engineered and way better built.......those unionistas didn't want to do any work...so the companies invented computers and robots to do it for them.....now it takes about 1/20th as many people to build a vehicle....
I like the C-2 for styling....not craftsmanship....my car is way better now than when it came off the 'line forty years ago....
Thanks again
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=Hank Kimball
......my 05' Avalance is 100,000% better in every single way, except one (styling) than anything 40 years old.....every single way.....its better engineered and way better built.......
......my 05' Avalance is 100,000% better in every single way, except one (styling) than anything 40 years old.....every single way.....its better engineered and way better built.......
Look at any 10 year old GM car for an example. All the interior trim and door panels are made from plastic that splits and cracks and rattles, buzzes and creaks. And good luck finding a restoration supplier to replicate all that stuff.
Robots love to work, and of course they don't eat or sleep or have families that might get sick and need health insurance. I guess all we humans ought to just walk into the ocean since we're such a burden on the hard working robots of the world?
Maybe your friend can get a robot to come over and install his new carpeting?
I'm out of this one.
Take care.
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Originally Posted by Hank Kimball
"Obviously the changes made over the years made some things better and others worse. Craftsmanship is the one main thing that has suffered."
Sorry to disagree, don't mean to be disagreable......but.......my 05' Avalance is 100,000% better in every single way, except one (styling) than anything 40 years old.....every single way.....its better engineered and way better built.......those unionistas didn't want to do any work...so the companies invented computers and robots to do it for them.....now it takes about 1/20th as many people to build a vehicle....
I like the C-2 for styling....not craftsmanship....my car is way better now than when it came off the 'line forty years ago....
Thanks again
Sorry to disagree, don't mean to be disagreable......but.......my 05' Avalance is 100,000% better in every single way, except one (styling) than anything 40 years old.....every single way.....its better engineered and way better built.......those unionistas didn't want to do any work...so the companies invented computers and robots to do it for them.....now it takes about 1/20th as many people to build a vehicle....
I like the C-2 for styling....not craftsmanship....my car is way better now than when it came off the 'line forty years ago....
Thanks again
