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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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After putting the wire with rod on the end down the shifter shaft does it connect to something. how does it work to make it lock out. Should you be in a certain gear when installing. I just can not get the reverse lock out back. I changed my shifter boot pulled the **** and spring out pulled up the t handle with rod connected. put back the same way rod spring and **** but no lock out. Mike
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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The rod on the T handle goes through a hole on the lower square part of the shifter and when you pull up on the t handle the rod clears a set screw which then allows the bottom of the shifter to move to the right and engage the reverse lever which allows you to shift into reverse. There is a shifter reverse lever interlock (sometimes called a "shim" which which fits into the shifter lever bracket in between the reverse lever and the 1st & 2nd gear lever. The purpose of this shim is to prevent you from shifting into reverse accidentally. Now, if the shim is broken off (as was the case in my car) the shim may be getting in the way of the shifter moving into the reverse lever. Also be sure that the rod on the t handle is clearing the set screw when you pull up on it. I am not sure if this answers your question or not.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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I am able to get into reverse just fine. The problem is when I install the rod reverse DOES NOT lock out. I can get into reverse with out pulling up on the t handle which makes it very easy to hit reverse by accident. I will pull it apart tonight and see if the shim is broken or missing.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by NINETNINEVETT
Should you be in a certain gear when installing. Mike

Mike, You can install the lockout rod in any gear except reverse, although installing it with the trans in neutral is how I do it.

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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NINETNINEVETT
I am able to get into reverse just fine. The problem is when I install the rod reverse DOES NOT lock out. I can get into reverse with out pulling up on the t handle which makes it very easy to hit reverse by accident. I will pull it apart tonight and see if the shim is broken or missing.
Either the shim is broken or it sounds like the rod is not staying far enough down to disengage the shim. Is the rod loose where it attaches to the T-handle? If that is the case, try to squeeze the part of the T-handle where the rod attaches (I did mine with needle nose vise grips) to tighten it back up since it is press-fit into the T-handle. Otherwise, when you move the shifter over to the R gate, the rod is moving up on its own allowing it to go into reverse regardless of the position of the T-handle. I think others have actually had it welded once it is in the right place so it can't move again. You may have to buy another T-handle if you can't get it tight where the rod attaches to it. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by NINETNINEVETT
I am able to get into reverse just fine. The problem is when I install the rod reverse DOES NOT lock out. I can get into reverse with out pulling up on the t handle which makes it very easy to hit reverse by accident. I will pull it apart tonight and see if the shim is broken or missing.
I had the same problem in my 67, the long thin lock-out rod is worn - replace it.

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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Either the shim is broken or it sounds like the rod is not staying far enough down to disengage the shim. Is the rod loose where it attaches to the T-handle? If that is the case, try to squeeze the part of the T-handle where the rod attaches (I did mine with needle nose vise grips) to tighten it back up since it is press-fit into the T-handle. Otherwise, when you move the shifter over to the R gate, the rod is moving up on its own allowing it to go into reverse regardless of the position of the T-handle. I think others have actually had it welded once it is in the right place so it can't move again. You may have to buy another T-handle if you can't get it tight where the rod attaches to it. Good luck!


The CABLE & PIN asy (#3863366). is supposed to be tight in the "T" handle. It is held in place by a set screw in the "T" handle. This was 1964 first design. Later production had a solid ROD (#3889461). In service, this replaced the former part and was installed in the shifter by removing (discarding) the set screw, enlarging the cable hole with a #43 drill if needed. Then squeeze flat the rod that is sticking above the "T" handle. In other words, it is not held tight. This will prevent it from pulling back through the handle. The spring should shove the end of the rod back down AGAINST THE END of the blocker pin which I referred to in your previous thread. Somebody here referred to it as a set screw. It isn't a set screw, it's a welded pin in the shifter housing.

I suggest your blocker pin weld has failed OR if you pulled out a CABLE & PIN then the end of your pin is broken off and still down in the shifter. This is why they changed the design from the cable and pin to the pin design.

As was mentioned, you should be able to put your shifter in any forward gear or neutral and drop the rod down in the handle. Without doing anything else, it should lock the shifter out of reverse. If it doesn't, refer to my previous paragraph and be prepared to remove the shifter from the car.

Hope this is a little more clear.

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Oops...

I was talking about the type that is on my 65. No experience with the 64 style since it sounds like it was totally different.

Not sure about the 64 shifter but with the 65 shifter, the rod does have to be in a certain place vertically or it won't work either way.

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Oops...

I was talking about the type that is on my 65. No experience with the 64 style since it sounds like it was totally different.

Not sure about the 64 shifter but with the 65 shifter, the rod does have to be in a certain place vertically or it won't work either way.

'64-'67 all the same.
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Mike M. Thanks for the great detailed info. BIGGGGG help. Mike
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The rod may be worn to much but have you tried adjusting the rod? That's what the set screw is for on the T-handle.
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