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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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Hello everyone,

Does anyone know of someone who could provide appraisal or inspection services for a Proteam car?

http://www.proteamcorvette.com/cars/326W.htm

I think this car is a little steep at this price but might be a fair deal at around $50k, mainly due to it's documentation. Is it asking too much of that devil we know as Proteam to deal on a car?

Either way, I'd like to know of someone who would do an inspection for a fair fee.

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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick Trowbridge
Hello everyone,

Does anyone know of someone who could provide appraisal or inspection services for a Proteam car?

http://www.proteamcorvette.com/cars/326W.htm

I think this car is a little steep at this price but might be a fair deal at around $50k, mainly due to it's documentation. Is it asking too much of that devil we know as Proteam to deal on a car?

Either way, I'd like to know of someone who would do an inspection for a fair fee.

Thanks

I guess I'm missing the attractiveness of a project car whose documentation and low miles will still result in an NOM car at the end of the day, unless it's faked. For a coupe, no less.
I could imagine better choices.
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Originally Posted by Rick Trowbridge
Hello everyone,

Does anyone know of someone who could provide appraisal or inspection services for a Proteam car?

http://www.proteamcorvette.com/cars/326W.htm

I think this car is a little steep at this price but might be a fair deal at around $50k, mainly due to it's documentation. Is it asking too much of that devil we know as Proteam to deal on a car?

Either way, I'd like to know of someone who would do an inspection for a fair fee.

Thanks
I sent you a pm. ProTeam is like any other dealer, they buy cars, they sell cars, and they deal some.
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer5863
I guess I'm missing the attractiveness of a project car whose documentation and low miles will still result in an NOM car at the end of the day, unless it's faked. For a coupe, no less.
I could imagine better choices.
It is a '67, it is a coupe, it probably was a 435 hp, and it is red.

At $50,000, it seems like a steal, if they would deal that much. But the long run, you have probably $40,000 - $50,000 to bring it up to 435 hp condition and still have an NOM.

It is a shame someone drilled holes in those valve covers.
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It is a '67, it is a coupe, it probably was a 435 hp, and it is red.

At $50,000, it seems like a steal, if they would deal that much. But the long run, you have probably $40,000 - $50,000 to bring it up to 435 hp condition and still have an NOM.

It is a shame someone drilled holes in those valve covers.
So, are you agreeing that its not a good deal or that its a steal? The coupe is not a good thing, obviously. And are you saying they will have $90-$100k total in a car with a wrong motor? This be bad too, eh?

Who cares if it was a 435 if that engine is gone forever?
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:54 AM
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Who cares what it used to have. They have alot of ***** to even ask that amount. By the way what's wrong with a coupe. It's way better looking then a vert. And is a much tighter car to drive.
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Originally Posted by Rick Trowbridge
Hello everyone,

Does anyone know of someone who could provide appraisal or inspection services for a Proteam car?

http://www.proteamcorvette.com/cars/326W.htm

I think this car is a little steep at this price but might be a fair deal at around $50k, mainly due to it's documentation. Is it asking too much of that devil we know as Proteam to deal on a car?

Either way, I'd like to know of someone who would do an inspection for a fair fee.

Thanks
Hi
Call me skeptical...If this is and was "original" big block car 427 4 spd...This car is documented to be so..and has the potiential to sell for much much much more...Dont you think they have the resources to "pop" in a 427 make it some what correct and sell for alot more money???

They are in the business to make money..Highly unlikely they will go down 15k

Plus, I use to live in Ohio I have been to Pro Team couple of times...I have seen some expectionally nice cars and I haved seen some way overpriced (In my opinion) for what it was.... I know a guy here in Florida...whos friend that bought a Car from ProTeam couple years back(late 80s ealry 90s prices!!) that was suppose to be "all original" 67 427 big block car...(he had and inspector (Corvette specialist) look at it!!! He gave the thumbs up) paided quite a bit of money for it when it came to Florida the frame was rusted out and the radiator was not stock and had electric fans..

Needless to say, he wasnt "happy"..Pro Team was not happy to get the car back...

My suggestion to you...This is alot of money for a car that you are taking on "faith" that its was and original 427 car at one time..If it were me, I would do my homework (research) and I would go up to Pro Team and look at it myself and make SURE its EXACTLY what I want!!!
Just a thought..

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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer5863
For a coupe, no less.
I could imagine better choices.

you know, there are some of us that actually prefer the body lines and looks of the coupes!
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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Rick,for that kind of money pay some one who can go over the car for you very carefully .Take your time and don't rush into something you might regret. Just my thoughts. Bob W
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What.... Interstinig shifter..... Looks like a 4 speed but I can see the automatic dip stick in the engine photo.... Pleazzzzzeeeeee tell me they are not using a 4 speed look-a-like to shift an automatic..... For $65K he can take the mouse turds and shove them up his tail pipe..... Maybe its an early April Fools Joke or has ProTeam sunk that low.....
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Originally Posted by BarryK
you know, there are some of us that actually prefer the body lines and looks of the coupes!

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Originally Posted by Rair67
Me too.....
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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All I know is that a documented 435 with F41 and side exhaust is a desirable car when it is completed. I also think the coupes are beautiful looking cars. Maroon is not my favorite color, but I've got a green '67 big block, so who am I to complain. If you're willing to do the work and you're careful not to spend silly money on the car, you could have a very rare and desirable car for the money. I know that if I saw a car optioned out like this one with paperwork, I would pay attention to it. I think side pipes (documented) will add $10,000 to $25,000 to the value of a '67 435, what do others think about this?
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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Thanks for the advice guys. Just so there is no confusion, I am not a car or Corvette rookie. I have owned several muscle cars and currently own a '62. I do all my own work on the cars barring body/paint. I have particpated in NCRS judging of '62s at the chapter and regional (OJ) level. I would like to go to OH and view the car myself but if there are local guys who could do it for a decent fee that would work too and be much easier than me having to travel.

I emailed them for additional info on the car and they sent more photos and info. The build sheet appears authetic and maches the options listed and dates on the build coincide nicely with those of the POP. The POP does show it as a JE coded car and appears authentic.

There are things I want: a '67, an original tri-power car (400hp is ok), a coupe, and I prefer a car in need of restoration. I would love a car with the original engine but I think that is a lot to ask for a car that old and that has the potential to be driven that hard. I do not mind paying a fair price for a car, even a premium for one with solid documentation and the tell-tale signs and good fundamentals, but would like to avoid grossly overpaying.

If anyone knows of such a car I would be all ears . . .

Thanks in advance
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Rick
since everyone has seemed to have negleted answering your original question, I'll try.

you can try contacting a local corvette club or NCRS chapter and usually there would be someone knowlegable enough in midyear cars that could go over to Proteam and inspect the car for you. There will probably be a small fee involved but that's reasonable enough to make sure the car is fairly evaluated to your satisfaction.
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer5863
So, are you agreeing that its not a good deal or that its a steal? The coupe is not a good thing, obviously. And are you saying they will have $90-$100k total in a car with a wrong motor? This be bad too, eh?

Who cares if it was a 435 if that engine is gone forever?
I'm saying that people will look at this as an ex-435 hp car and say that $50,000 is a steal compared to the $120,000 for a correct NOM 435 hp and the $200,000 for an original 435 hp. (Prices may vary depending on the hour.)

A coupe is a good thing. The lines are great. Then again, so are a convertible's. It is just that many put 435 hp and coupe together automatically.

Prices of cars are based on a few conditions:

1. Originality
2. Rarity
3. Scarcity
4. Quality
5. Desirability

Without the original 435 block, you will be stuck with a 435 hp NOM if you can prove it is a real 435 hp car. Check with Jim Jordan on his blue '67 435 hp NOM that he is trying to sell. It is a really nice car, but people have gotten this idea that only original engine cars are worth anything.

67 435 hp convert
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Pretty car, but WAY too much money for a car that has to be "re-created" to appear correct.
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You don't need a car inspector so much as a documentation inspector. The 435 motor is gone. It's the paper and the tags that document whether this really was a 435 HP car that determine a significant portion of the value of this car. You need to determine if they are genuine.

BTW, have you seen the aged tank stickers and tags for sale on EBay? Blank ones. Type and stamp anything you want on them.
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer5863
For a coupe, no less.
I could imagine better choices.
First time I have seen a derogatory comment about a coupe's value.

I haven't seen price differences. Is this one person's personal opinion on styling or have I been missing out on something?
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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I've seen the aged tank stickers and I do know repro POP's exist as well.

Is there someone here who is an expert on POPs & build sheets? I have photo's of both would be happy to email them to email them to someone with more knowledge than me to validate.
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