KENS78SILVERANNIV

I've got a '66 327-300 h.p. coupe... Changing the oil for the first time and I notice the previous owner has a "CHAMP" PH8A oil filter on the engine. That's what I used to put on my vintage Mustangs.

Question #1 -- Did these cars originally come with spin-on filters?

Question #2 -- Is this the correct filter to use? What is the correct part # for the AC Delco and FRAM spin on filters for this engine?

Thanks.

Nowhere Man

they came with the canster style oil filters that uses an AC PF141
i belive the AC spin on style 1218 will work or the PF454

Donald #31176

I think Nowhere Man typo should be PF141 canister originally. The AC PF 1218 also cross references the following

Hastings LF24, LF 224
Lee LF29
Motorcraft FL 12
Wix 51061
FRam PH 8, PH 13
Purolator L 34631

ghostrider20

All above correct.

You have a "Spin On" oil filter adapter most likely bolted on. You will be able to note it easily, as they are usually chrome.

I use the Mr. Gasket spin on adapter, and I use the Wix 51061.

Mark

66427-450

agree.

i currently use the following spin-on myself:
66 BB = Fram HP (NOT the std cheap Frams)
C5 = K&N

for a 300 that's been converted? first, i'd make sure the guy did the conversion properly, and did not remove the bypass valve (you can bypass the filter 100%, i've seen it twice), then get any quality spin-on (late 60's SBC size spin-on).... with the 300 we're not talking about high RPM/HD use.

saopm

I have the adapter and use a K&N oil filter. HP-2002.

MidYearRoadster

I use an AC Delco spin on number PF 932 its a truck application filter..it holds about two quarts....I like the idea of having extra oil..it keeps cooler and the more the merrier...its very tall so make sure you can handle it...on my big block, the pan is about an inch lower than the bottom of the filter..

The Black Knight

There are two spin on oil filter adapters out there. One allows the use of the ACDelco filters. The other allows for the use of a Ford or Purolator filter. It sounds to me like you have the Ford type adapter (It has a smaller diameter thread for the oil filter to spin on.)

How do I know? I have used the Ford type NAPA 735-1293 in my 65 for a years. Pick up a Purolator PureONE PL30001 filter from Pep Boys. It is the same kind of filter used on Ford cars through the 60's and beyond and may explain your familiarity with it in your old Mustang. It is painted a nice blue metalfake and looks a lot like the ACDelco filter.

Bob Schaefer

After working for a couple of years in product engineering at Purolator and seeing comparitive lab test results, I can vouch for the fact that this is a very good oil filter choice!!! It provides excellent filtering efficiency and capacity.

Best Regards,
Bob S.

Corbrastang

I just converted to the spin on filter. I use the K&N filter. If you need the number all you have to do is look up the filter for a 71 vette with a 350. I also use a magnet on the filter to trap metal particles. Some people say it is worthless to use them, but i like to think that more of those little particles are getting trapped in the filter thanks to it and i would find it hard to believe that they are not. However,i have yet to cut a filter open since my car is not running yet. I ll report back later.

ffas23

Champ PH8A is the same part number as a Fram PH8A which equals a Purolator Per1A. These are all filters used for Ford Vehicles. Fram Ph30 and Purolator Per 49 are Chevrolet V-8 Filter numbers that fit most of the earlier V-8's. I have sold Purolator for 28 years also sold some Fram during those years. Never had a problem with either manufacturer.

Last 62

I had problems with Fram in my race car. The engine would lose oil prressure because the filter would would not flow enough oil with the bypass valve blocked off. AC or Wix would not. That tells me the fram bypasses alot of oil when the others actually filters the oil. I don't think you will find many drag racers using Fram filters.

Jim

sweet66

In a post many months back there was avery good article about flow rates filtering capacity etc.. from memory best oil filters were K&N and Wix
at the bottom was Fram . I have not tried to search the archives
but no doubt it is there .. somewhere .........

NedP1

The Motorcraft oil filter used for years and described above is indeed a very good two stage filter. Ford made the filter themselves for many years. It was FL-1 and later FL-1a (slight dimple for clearance) Don't know if it's still two stage or if Ford still makes it themselves. This would be the filter the Purolater fellow tested, although there is nothing wrong with purolater or Wix. Ford also made a two stage filter for the sping on chevrolet - perhaps it was PF-9. The long line (complete applicatons wer made by Wix for Motorcraft). I worked at Motorcraft for a few years.

Most of us change our filters far ahead of what is required so many of these high capacity types are over kill - not necessarily extra oil capacity - I mean contaminant capacity.

I also read in one of the SBC books the AC PF 141 is very good - the old canister type. I believe it was the Vizzard book.

ffas23

For those that don't know. Purolator is the Company that developed the first oil filter for the automobile. The Purolator name came from the phrase Pure-Oil-Later. As I have said I have sold and have been using Purolator for the last 28 years and actually used Purolator even before ever getting into the business. Purolator also sells the Group 7 brand which is sold exclusively to the repair shops. It is the same filter as the Purolator. I have cut them open and they are exact.

A word of advice. Watch out for the Chinese Oil Filters now being sold in this country. Plenty of oil change places are purchasing these filters looking for a cheaper way out to make more money. This is one more thing American manufacturers are faced with in having to compete now with the Chinese.

66427-450

interesting, i've had (and heard of) just the opposite experences (about the ability to handle high flow rates).... this is the filter on use on the BB BTW (bottom filter)
http://www.fram.com/products/oilFilters.php

Alwyn678

First hand knowledge is Best

Mossy66

The original poster asked his question in 2006.

Gerry

BD104X

^^^ this ^^^
I wouldn't put a Fram filter on my lawn mower. As others have said, some after market adapters use the large Ford filter. If that's what's on there, that's what I would use. I don't believe they're interchangeable.

ditchdigger650

Same here.