C1 & C2 Corvettes General C1 Corvette & C2 Corvette Discussion, Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Project Builds, Restorations

bird cage??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 12:35 PM
  #1  
KNIPPS's Avatar
KNIPPS
Thread Starter
Racer
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 413
Likes: 3
From: Frankfort Illinois
Default bird cage??

excuse my ignorance i am still learning....i was reading sone replies and i heard the term "bird cage" tossed around??? what is it?? i am wondering because i am looking/ waiting for a 65 in the neighborhood to go up for sale and it has been sitting next to a garage under a tarp...help me out what is this "bird cage" business??
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 12:42 PM
  #2  
climbabout's Avatar
climbabout
Racer
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 364
Likes: 0
From: Fairfield County Connecticut
Default birdcage

The birdcage is the metal framing that basically supports the roof of the car - this thread should show you all you need to know about it.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1427645
Tim Jones
Climbabout
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:02 PM
  #3  
JohnZ's Avatar
JohnZ
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 38,897
Likes: 1,926
From: Washington Michigan
Default

Here's a diagram of the complete coupe birdcage - it's the steel structure that forms the foundation for the fiberglass body that's bonded to it. No parts (other than the drip rails around the upper door opening) are reproduced for it, and rust repairs are horrendously time-consuming and expensive, as the bonded-on fiberglass body panels bonded to the birdcage must be removed in order to get to the steel structure for repairs.




Last edited by JohnZ; Jul 3, 2006 at 01:06 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 01:27 PM
  #4  
62Jeff's Avatar
62Jeff
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 15,576
Likes: 118
From: Conroe Texas
Default

The birdcage metal framework includes the front and rear door jamb structures, the door sill area, the windshield A-pillar and cross pieces, and in a coupe includes metal around the perimeter of the roof.

Here's a picture from the 1963 Shop Manual that shows the structure for the coupe. I highlighted in Yellow the birdcage itself.



Oops, looks like John beat me to it!
Reply
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 03:31 PM
  #5  
wombvette's Avatar
wombvette
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 8,918
Likes: 27
From: New Hill NC
Default

Here is a real one. The bird got away.



Reply
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 01:15 AM
  #6  
Vogie's Avatar
Vogie
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,973
Likes: 5
From: Valrico Florida
Default

Wombvette, that photo is so beautiful that I want to cry. My cage has rust that will require significant repairs.
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 07:08 PM
  #7  
KNIPPS's Avatar
KNIPPS
Thread Starter
Racer
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 413
Likes: 3
From: Frankfort Illinois
Default

thnx everybody for the birdcage info
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 07:17 PM
  #8  
Trophy Blue's Avatar
Trophy Blue
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,073
Likes: 3
From: New Jersey. The deer ate my Garden State.
Default

When I had my heater core out last week, I looked my birdcage over and was very thankful that it was all there.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 08:01 PM
  #9  
Paul L's Avatar
Paul L
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 30,995
Likes: 99
From: Ontario
Default

Wombvette,
That pic should be archived somewhere. Thanks. I have saved it.
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 08:18 PM
  #10  
Jack60's Avatar
Jack60
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 844
Likes: 2
From: Westminster Maryland
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

Originally Posted by paul67
Wombvette,
That pic should be archived somewhere. Thanks. I have saved it.
So did I.
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 08:48 PM
  #11  
Trophy Blue's Avatar
Trophy Blue
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,073
Likes: 3
From: New Jersey. The deer ate my Garden State.
Default

That thing is a work of art!!
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2006 | 11:45 PM
  #12  
wombvette's Avatar
wombvette
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 8,918
Likes: 27
From: New Hill NC
Default

Other side. If you will go to my website, you can see the whole project. This car was done completely by parts donated from other cars or reproductions. Go to the album entitled Walden 65 Project.


http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/commun...pid=303869&ck=



Last edited by wombvette; Jul 5, 2006 at 12:11 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 01:20 AM
  #13  
4S FED's Avatar
4S FED
Instructor
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
From: Merritt Island FL
Default

Why doesn't anyone make a repacement Bird-Cage for a Mid-year????
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 01:15 PM
  #14  
JohnZ's Avatar
JohnZ
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 38,897
Likes: 1,926
From: Washington Michigan
Default

The large compound-curved panels are VERY expensive to tool up, with multiple large dies; enormous investment required, with a very limited volume potential. Parts would have to be priced way beyond what folks would be willing to pay for them in order to recover the die costs.

Maybe Bill Gates or Warren Buffett could be convinced to underwrite the die costs as a "humanitarian" contribution.

Reply
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 07:37 PM
  #15  
Grey Ghost's Avatar
Grey Ghost
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 8,506
Likes: 3
From: Calhoun, GA_______ Let It Rock
Default

We could even buy them a brick at the museum for free publicity.

Originally Posted by JohnZ
Maybe Bill Gates or Warren Buffett could be convinced to underwrite the die costs as a "humanitarian" contribution.
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 07:44 PM
  #16  
Grey Ghost's Avatar
Grey Ghost
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 8,506
Likes: 3
From: Calhoun, GA_______ Let It Rock
Default

Is that the Walden in Alabama ?

Originally Posted by wombvette
Go to the album entitled Walden 65 Project.
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:32 PM
  #17  
wombvette's Avatar
wombvette
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 8,918
Likes: 27
From: New Hill NC
Default

Yep.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2006 | 10:15 AM
  #18  
Cmacsvette's Avatar
Cmacsvette
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 944
Likes: 1
From: WA
Default

Originally Posted by JohnZ
The large compound-curved panels are VERY expensive to tool up, with multiple large dies; enormous investment required, with a very limited volume potential. Parts would have to be priced way beyond what folks would be willing to pay for them in order to recover the die costs.

Maybe Bill Gates or Warren Buffett could be convinced to underwrite the die costs as a "humanitarian" contribution.

Good point....................I'll stop by Bill's when I'm in the neighboroood again and ask.


That reminds me, I'll bring one of my new bumper stickers......."Have you Hugged Your Birdcage Today?"................................. .That sounds humanitarian to me.......

Last edited by Cmacsvette; Jul 6, 2006 at 10:40 AM.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To bird cage??





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:22 PM.

story-0
5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 most overrated Corvette track packages ever.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:46:45


VIEW MORE
story-1
Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

Slideshow: Every 2027 Corvette engine explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:16:31


VIEW MORE
story-2
Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

Slideshow: A Jaguar designer's personal project imagines what a modern front-engined Corvette might look like if Chevrolet revisited the golden age of the Stingray.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-08 19:53:43


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-8
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE