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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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The 64/327/365HP I just got has PerTronix Ignitor II in it. I am not familiar with this Would my timing and dwell still be the same as if i had points? Can i use my dwell meter the same way and should i have 30% on the meter
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Pertronix eliminates points, so there is no Dwell to adjust. Continue to set your timing normally.
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Yep, points and condenser are eliminated with the PerTronix conversion (or any of the other aftermarket electronic conversions). Thus, ANYTHING related to points/condenser is not required. As already mentioned, all you have to do now is set timing. That's it. These conversions ARE NOT a super hot fire breathing ignition, they are simply an electronic conversion. That's it. Usually, it is recommended to add a heavy duty oil filled coil (PerTronix claims 40,000volts with their conversion and their coil), and for the most part, I agree. But, simply by the nature of the electronic design, voltage to the plugs is somewhat increased, but not like a super duper racing igniton. I have them on all of my older engines that originally had points, and I'm extremely satisfied with them.
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I have been running a Pertronics setup (points and coil) for three years and would never go back to a points setup. Hotter spark, easier starting and no points to to adjust.
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Excuse the off thread question, but while Pertronix experts are on line--I'm considering the Pertronix and appropriate coil as a replacement for a erratically behaving twin point system in a Mallory distributor on a Ford 427 side oiler.

Good idea or should I continue to optimize the twin points system?
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Originally Posted by piper
The 64/327/365HP I just got has PerTronix Ignitor II in it. I am not familiar with this Would my timing and dwell still be the same as if i had points? Can i use my dwell meter the same way and should i have 30% on the meter
THere are 2 Pertronix units. Use part number 1181. The other part number (don't know what it is) has a 3 second delay built into it. You will crank the motor for 3 seconds before it fires up-it will drive you crazy.
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Make sure you use the shims (if needed).
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I have an odd phenomena with my Pertronix ignition. It is the side magnet rotor that is used in 56-59 applications that have the counter weights below the point mounting plate. The runout (gap variation) is .010-.025 which is no problem and fires the Hall Affect electronics nicely.
What I find is that when I set my advance using the #1 plug wire at 8 deg. and then switch to the #6 plug wire (360 deg crankshaft rotation) the timing is 6 deg? I have never looked at a point type ignition but wondered if anyone else had noticed this???
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While I don't have an aftermarket ignition, I can tell you that these units come up in discussion often here and other forums. The one thing I remember reading is that the Pertronix units either seem to work really well or they go into failure mode quickly. I would suggest that keeping a set of points and a condensor in your emergency kit is a cheap insurance policy. You can do an emergency roadside swap back to points in a matter of minutes.
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Originally Posted by kenEDMUNDS
THere are 2 Pertronix units. Use part number 1181. The other part number (don't know what it is) has a 3 second delay built into it. You will crank the motor for 3 seconds before it fires up-it will drive you crazy.
The 1181LSC is the other unit (I also prefer the original 1181 unit) which has a delay. You turn on the ign and wait 3-4sec (to allow it to charge) before engaging the starter. Other than that, it works fine.

The original 1181 unit includes a magnet wheel (with 8 tiny magnets) that installs below the rotor.
The 1181LSC (lobe sensing center) senses the high point of each lobe of the point cam.
Both units utilize a Hall cell (for you pointy heads who understand the function of a Hall cell). Us mechanical types just bolt it on, it either works or it doesn't!
The first PerTronix unit (1181) that I installed was 14yrs ago on my 56
and it still lights a fire.
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