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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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got to start somewhere I threw a set of bosch 7584s in the new engine I built to basicly close the plug holes. I'm using 292 head with the TRW 11-1 piston. The bosches give me room but what heat range wouild be a good place to start ?
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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Sorry I cannot give a heat range.... I like the Bosch Platinum 2's or 4's
Smokey Yunick did some testing on spark plugs he had modified by
cutting the electrode back.... what this did was make the nipple arc
to where the electrode was now.... on the side.

The reason he did this was to unshroud the spark from the chamber
in hopes to get a more complete burn... he did have a very very nominal
increase in horsepower.. like 1 to 3hp...measured on his dyno..

The Bosch 2's and 4's do this right out of the box... electrodes on the
side... spark unshrouded... and no need for you to modify.

I read about this in Smokey's book "Power Secrets"..

Im sure someone knows the heat range... good luck.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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Use a 45 series AC plug. There are 2 available and both are a resistor plug which actually means nothing as almost all plugs are resistor types.
With a 11-1 engine I would recommend the AC "R45". The other 45 is the "R45{S}". This is what every catalogue will tell you to use. The "S" means extended tip. Thats it`s problem, the piston may hit the electrode and close it up. Been there, done that! It`s really a bitch to remove and reinstall the spark plug ignition shielding twice when finding out the hard way that the plugs tips are touching the piston and closing the gaps. To be safe use the R45`s.

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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
Use a 45 series AC plug. There are 2 available and both are a resistor plug which actually means nothing as almost all plugs are resistor types.
With a 11-1 engine I would recommend the AC "R45". The other 45 is the "R45{S}". This is what every catalogue will tell you to use. The "S" means extended tip. Thats it`s problem, the piston may hit the electrode and close it up. Been there, done that! It`s really a bitch to remove and reinstall the spark plug ignition shielding twice when finding out the hard way that the plugs tips are touching the piston and closing the gaps. To be safe use the R45`s.
I have a 383 stroker motor, EFI, stock 350 mid 70's heads (nothing special)....would you recommend this same spark plug for my set up as well?


regards, Herb
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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If you wish to use a non-resistor (non-R) and non-extended (non-S) tip spark plug, then this NGK is the equivalent of the old AC45.

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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by firstgear
I have a 383 stroker motor, EFI, stock 350 mid 70's heads (nothing special)....would you recommend this same spark plug for my set up as well?


regards, Herb
Those heads take the tapered-seat "peanut" plugs, so you'd need the "T" version in a 45 heat range.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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What about using 43's??
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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43`s are too cold. The factory correct plug is actually a AC 44. Unfortunately they have been off the market for several years as obsolete available through the E Bay as overpriced not necessary originals. Stick to the 45`s unless you just want to become experienced in changing fuel fouled plugs. I even use 45`s in my A990 race hemi
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What does an Autolite 85 cross reference to in an AC number?
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
43`s are too cold. The factory correct plug is actually a AC 44. Unfortunately they have been off the market for several years as obsolete available through the E Bay as overpriced not necessary originals.
Why is that? Plain ordinary 44's were the standard plug in my '56 Belair 265, the parents '59 Kingswood 283, their '67 Impala 327 and my '69 Impala 350. There had to be millions in use at one time. 45s came out of my '56 looking too hot.

Dad said: "Son, put AC plugs in General Motors cars and Champions in everything else."
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With less volatility in modern fuels you need the 45 heat range.
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Scott:
Autolite 85 is an extended tip. If you look at the Autolite cross reference, AC 45 range could be either 85 or 86. My brother uses 86's in his 327/300 with good results.
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Thanks Dan,
I plan on using those in my kid's '76 I'm finishing up. It has flat top pistons with '69 vintage 64cc heads and comes in at 10:1 SCR. With the flat tops I don't think I need to worry about the extended tip. This plug is listed as being applicable for a '68 Corvette with 10.5:1 compression so it caught my eye. BTW Dan, we're running the L-79 cam in this motor too
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