Engine stamping question
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Engine stamping question
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I own a 1965 corvette Vin 194375S108075. The serial Vin pad has been decked and modified. The serial # has been drilled and filled with epoxy prior to decking so the vin is not legible. Has anyone seen this done before? The prodcution stamp on the vin pad is visible though (V09IHH). I have not been able to identify the (V) in the code any ideas?
The left rear driver side casting # is 3892657 (Late 66/early 67). The right rear casting date is (1) or (I) 146.
Obviously I am trying to confirm that this is not a matching numbers car. The car is ready to roll into the paint booth, but I have not decided to go original color (Sunfire Yellow) or my preferance Rally Red until proper ID is completed.
Can any one help?
Thanks, George
Fellow members
I own a 1965 corvette Vin 194375S108075. The serial Vin pad has been decked and modified. The serial # has been drilled and filled with epoxy prior to decking so the vin is not legible. Has anyone seen this done before? The prodcution stamp on the vin pad is visible though (V09IHH). I have not been able to identify the (V) in the code any ideas?
The left rear driver side casting # is 3892657 (Late 66/early 67). The right rear casting date is (1) or (I) 146.
Obviously I am trying to confirm that this is not a matching numbers car. The car is ready to roll into the paint booth, but I have not decided to go original color (Sunfire Yellow) or my preferance Rally Red until proper ID is completed.
Can any one help?
Thanks, George
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Thanks for the replies.
The only thing that makes me skeptical about the 365 HP is that the casting number 3892657 indicates that it was produced late 66/early 67. If this is the case than according to several books this was produced in 66/67 that this would either be a 265HP or 300HP depending on what car it was manufactured for. And of cource would still not likeley to match the vin due to the gaps in production dates between the car and the motor. My hope was that the removal of the original vin was some sort of dealer replacement process for engines that did not make it through the warranty periond.
Thanks,
any more info I would greatly appreciate.
George
The only thing that makes me skeptical about the 365 HP is that the casting number 3892657 indicates that it was produced late 66/early 67. If this is the case than according to several books this was produced in 66/67 that this would either be a 265HP or 300HP depending on what car it was manufactured for. And of cource would still not likeley to match the vin due to the gaps in production dates between the car and the motor. My hope was that the removal of the original vin was some sort of dealer replacement process for engines that did not make it through the warranty periond.
Thanks,
any more info I would greatly appreciate.
George
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The car is 40+ and probably a lot of things have been changed. Notice the auctions are no paying too much attention to the so call matching number cars rather referring to them as accurate replacement engines. A color change? your going to have to take it apart, I mean completely. 
Lotta work, 
Lotta work,
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Since that block could not be original or correct for a 65, you would have to replace it to make the car correct if you paint it the original color.
I think completely original and correct is a better "investment". You have to decide if the car is an "investment" or not?
Don
I think completely original and correct is a better "investment". You have to decide if the car is an "investment" or not?
Don
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Hello
Fellow members
I own a 1965 corvette Vin 194375S108075. The serial Vin pad has been decked and modified. The serial # has been drilled and filled with epoxy prior to decking so the vin is not legible. Has anyone seen this done before? The prodcution stamp on the vin pad is visible though (V09IHH). I have not been able to identify the (V) in the code any ideas?
The left rear driver side casting # is 3892657 (Late 66/early 67). The right rear casting date is (1) or (I) 146.
Obviously I am trying to confirm that this is not a matching numbers car. The car is ready to roll into the paint booth, but I have not decided to go original color (Sunfire Yellow) or my preferance Rally Red until proper ID is completed.
Can any one help?
Thanks, George
Fellow members
I own a 1965 corvette Vin 194375S108075. The serial Vin pad has been decked and modified. The serial # has been drilled and filled with epoxy prior to decking so the vin is not legible. Has anyone seen this done before? The prodcution stamp on the vin pad is visible though (V09IHH). I have not been able to identify the (V) in the code any ideas?
The left rear driver side casting # is 3892657 (Late 66/early 67). The right rear casting date is (1) or (I) 146.
Obviously I am trying to confirm that this is not a matching numbers car. The car is ready to roll into the paint booth, but I have not decided to go original color (Sunfire Yellow) or my preferance Rally Red until proper ID is completed.
Can any one help?
Thanks, George
However, I cannot make sense of the engine assembly date (Sept 1) vs the cast date (seemingly Sept 4, from the info provided). If the cast date is being read correctly and the engine pad does bear this assembly date, it would be a restamp.
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Originial I come from the Boston area, were more cars seem to disappear and several of the shops in the Northshore and Southshore knew how to get parts cheap and charge full price to the customer. Ah capitalism at its finest. I am sure the rest of the country did the same type of thing during those days.
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GWhitmer...
i know a guy off of Dersch/Deschutes....just across the valley from you...he deals in restorations...he might help you in the id of the motor....
let know and i will give you his ###...
jack
let know and i will give you his ###...
jack
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Thanks for all the responses.
Sounds like the engine does not match the car and the engine was potentially stolen at some time. Consensus is that the motor is a 1966 300HP motor with a restamp.
Jack
If you will send me the contact for the guy in Palocedro I will go by and see him. I have been to his house many many years ago. I believe now that he may have the birdcage and vin that matches my motor. My car was purchased with several other cars and parts as an estate sale back in the 1990’s by my cars previous owner. When I was there years ago he knew of my car and showed me several frames and birdcages that were part of the original estate sale. The car was sold to me and most of the parts were sold to this guy. What a crazy small world we live in.
Thanks all
George
Sounds like the engine does not match the car and the engine was potentially stolen at some time. Consensus is that the motor is a 1966 300HP motor with a restamp.
Jack
If you will send me the contact for the guy in Palocedro I will go by and see him. I have been to his house many many years ago. I believe now that he may have the birdcage and vin that matches my motor. My car was purchased with several other cars and parts as an estate sale back in the 1990’s by my cars previous owner. When I was there years ago he knew of my car and showed me several frames and birdcages that were part of the original estate sale. The car was sold to me and most of the parts were sold to this guy. What a crazy small world we live in.
Thanks all
George
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If the pad was restamped, we have no way of knowing how the engine was originally configured, be it 300, 350, whatever. If not restamped, then it was originally assembled as a 300 hp engine in a 67 model year Chevrolet, perhaps Corvette (I don't know if other GM divs used this block and this HH code in 67).
Whatever the case, that block# is not "correct" for a 65, period. We can comfortably advise that the car does not have its original engine in it now, and it doesn't even have a proper "restoration" engine in there now, which would be a 3782870 block
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George:
His name is Steve Ward, Exclusive Corvette Restoration.
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If you turn west on Dersch off of Deschutes it' the first right called Beatie, (sp)...go until you see a road going to your left up the hill off of beatie...he will give you better directions...i don't know his address.
jack
His name is Steve Ward, Exclusive Corvette Restoration.
#365-7136
If you turn west on Dersch off of Deschutes it' the first right called Beatie, (sp)...go until you see a road going to your left up the hill off of beatie...he will give you better directions...i don't know his address.
jack
