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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Hey guys, I have a bad feeling about this. Really bad. The car seemed like it was to good to be true. Do you guys have any advise or know of anyway i can verify the car and sellers existence? I looked up the name from email address that i received a reply from and found a phone number for the town that they are supposedly from. Called it the people who answered had no idea what i was talking about. The cell phone number listed in the ad is never answered when i call. See a message from the seller below. How fast should I run?

Scott,

That's great. The only problem is that I'm also on a business trip in Europe and due big time diffrence is very difficult to chat over the phone. In this case my suggestion is ebaymotors,the financial part will be managed by them. No offense, but I need to be sure the person who receives the car is verified by a legitimate party. The car is in good driving condition but unexpected things might show up. Look how this works:
1. I will contact eBay.com and give all the info about this deal.
2. They will send us the forms by email - for you about the payment.
3. I will send the car to your location and you will send the money at eBay.
4. After you will inspect the car and decide to keep it, eBay will transfer the money into my account.
As you see I really want to be sure everything is clarified before any further steps are made.
If you wish to purchase it please provide me your full name and address so I can initiate the deal through eBay.
RETURN POLICY:
If by any reason the car is not as described, or if you find any problems with it I will pay for the returning fees. I'm sure it won't be the case because it's a state of art looking and working vehicle.
As soon as the car arrives, you will test it and if it does not match 100% to your expectations, you will return it in max. 15 days since the arrival date. In this case you will send me the car in the same shape you received it.
If interested and agree with my terms please advice asap because I have other offers also and need to decide who is the new owner of this beauty.

Best Regards,

Jack
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Old May 7, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Run fast - it's a scam. If it's too good to be true it usually is.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Scam. There are a couple going around similar to this right now.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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Definitely a scam. Ebay does not run an escrow service and will not serve as anyone's agent for a deal. The fraudulent seller would probably have some fake forms crafted with Ebay letterhead. Run Forest, Run!
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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I agree. Ebay only wants to collect money from sales on their website in fees they charge for any auction.
This is right up there with the 67 BB with a "Buy it Now" for $6k. I have a friend that is in the FBI. He tells me there are a lot of scams out there for under $9k. The Gov. red flags things higher than that cash amount. I am curious, how much is this scam going for?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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The real good english spelling/ gramar is for to run from also. (egermancy every body to run from deal) Sounds like his business trip is a permenant one to one of the former soviet republics where these scams usualy come from. A real scambag. I hate these guys.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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I was involved in a scam last year. I won't bore you with the details, but I covered my butt and the bank was held liable. I also had a phone number to contact and I never could get in touch with the person who they had given me his number (shocker) .
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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I agree with all the previous posts that it's totally a scam. But, to clarify kwkenuf's comments regarding ebay and escrow services, they do not run and escrow service but they do recommend/endorse escrow.com (this is not a recommendation on that service). I had wanted to use that service when I purchased my '61 on e-bay. We used a different method (totally not recommended - I would never do it again even though I had no problems).

Don't give that seller any more info about you.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Look if you have to ask....then its a scam. That simple.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Just curious--how many past Ebay transactions has this alleged scammer conducted and what's his positive feedback percentage, if any?

Has he asked for your past three years' tax returns yet?
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Well the car was a good price but according to NADA it was within bluebook. That's what didn't throw up the flag right away. I've seen those buy it nows on ebay for 9k. The car was listed at $25,500 on cars.com for a 1960 that was all orignial except for seats that were recovered in 1992.

The search continues.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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A 1960 all original for $25K!!!

Man you dont have to go past the asking price before you smelled the scam.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OldSchoolSS
and due big time diffrence is very difficult to chat over the phone......Look how this works.......forms by email - for you about the payment........and you will send the money at eBay........I will pay for the returning fees........ I'm sure it won't be the case because it's a state of art looking and working vehicle..........does not match 100% to your expectations, you will return it in max. 15 days since the arrival date. ......agree with my terms please advice asap
quite obviously his business is NOT hooked on phonics.

All you have to do is ask this guy for some personal information or some specific data (VIN, registration number, title) and tell him you are with a law enforcement agency and tell him you want to run some background info to make sure the deal is legit. Just watch how quickly he stops e-mailing you.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BMS
quite obviously his business is NOT hooked on phonics.

All you have to do is ask this guy for some personal information or some specific data (VIN, registration number, title) and tell him you are with a law enforcement agency and tell him you want to run some background info to make sure the deal is legit. Just watch how quickly he stops e-mailing you.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by OldSchoolSS
Well the car was a good price but according to NADA it was within bluebook. That's what didn't throw up the flag right away. I've seen those buy it nows on ebay for 9k. The car was listed at $25,500 on cars.com for a 1960 that was all orignial except for seats that were recovered in 1992.

The search continues.

#1. NADA? Please do yourself a favor and do not use KBB, NADA, etc. for pricing advice on cars like these. You will either get robbed or pass up a very fair deal, because you see that a 1960 low retail is $25K and do not realize that's the fair price for a parts car or heavily customized car that would take tons of work to make correct in appearance.
#2 Bluebook is a different company/service than NADA (It's Kelly Blue Book)

Use this and some of the other sites to give you an idea of what to pay, and do not jump at the first car you see, as the odds that it's the right one are very slim.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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If you buy that car...I have some real nice farm land property if Florida for sale, you can put up a barn to showcase your purchase...

jack
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