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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Have not posted for a while so I'll give it a shot. The gap between the leading edge of the hood and the front clip seems to be getting larger and larger over time, can the front clip be sagging? I adjusted the hood to it's limit. Is there a way to "jack up" the front clip to align with the hood edge? Front body mounts? I do want to get body and paint done someday but don't have the $$ right now - I'd leave it alone but people always ask me, "why is that gap so wide?"

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Originally Posted by easyflyer65
Hello all,

Have not posted for a while so I'll give it a shot. The gap between the leading edge of the hood and the front clip seems to be getting larger and larger over time, can the front clip be sagging? I adjusted the hood to it's limit. Is there a way to "jack up" the front clip to align with the hood edge? Front body mounts? I do want to get body and paint done someday but don't have the $$ right now - I'd leave it alone but people always ask me, "why is that gap so wide?"

Thanks.
That shouldnt happen. The front is mounted with bolts on the side of the radiator support and two solid mounts at the frame. There should be no way for this to sag. Shoot some pictures and we can see what you have going on.
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Does your car have the nose support rods installed that bolt near the headlight opening frames? On 66 cars there is also one in the center that bolts to the nose reinforcement bar just in front of the hood - not sure about 65s. These help align the nose and support it. However, as noted above the radiator support provides the support to the frame and even a little sag or misadjustment of the nose support rods wouldn't seem like it could allow the panel gap to increase in this area.

Is it the original hood? I wonder if someone replaced the hood and prepared the gap at the front too wide, and as time goes by you are getting more aware of it.

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I'll check on the nose support rods tonight. My dad had this car since '67 and never replaced the hood or anything, I'm now the 3rd owner. Seems like if I reach under the front clip and pull up on it I can almost get the hood to align - although the contour of the hood and clip don't seem right. I'll try and send some pictures tonight, my computer is very slow.

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Was the car ever hit in the nose? They can sometimes get tweaked with a downward nose tilt when hit across the nose or down low near the grill. Years ago body shops weren't too concerned about getting them 100% right - they were just another old car.

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That shouldnt happen. The front is mounted with bolts on the side of the radiator support and two solid mounts at the frame. There should be no way for this to sag. Shoot some pictures and we can see what you have going on.
Sorry, took some pictures but can't post them.
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Im having a problem with my hood also . The right front corner of the leading edge of the hood is about an eighth inch higher than the front clip . I've tried to find a way to lower the corner of the hood but cant seem to work it out . The rest of the hood is aligned really well . Im thinking there has to be some twisting caused by the hood latches that is causing it to raise up some . Any ideas ??
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Redctoo
Im having a problem with my hood also . The right front corner of the leading edge of the hood is about an eighth inch higher than the front clip . I've tried to find a way to lower the corner of the hood but cant seem to work it out . The rest of the hood is aligned really well . Im thinking there has to be some twisting caused by the hood latches that is causing it to raise up some . Any ideas ??
If you shim under the rearmost bolt that attaches the body side of the hinge to the inner fender, it will tip the pivot point of the hinge downward, lowering the front edge of the hood.
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The sagging complaint has been posted many times. My original unhit front end sagged low enough after 25 years that I modified the hinges to lower the leading edge.

I drilled out the pivot shaft and filed the hole in the lower hinge halves downward and the hole in the upper hinge halves upward - until the hole was large enough to take a plastic insert made to fit in the rubber bushings of the accelerator linkage. I united the halves with a 1/4uss bolt and a nylock nut. The nut allows the hinges to be tightened until the flanges of the plastic inserts have no gap between them - which as a side effect removes all the rattle and vibration typical of GM hood hinges.

I looks like this when installed:
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Here is a good example of some hood fit problems. Pretty car otherwise.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-...QQcmdZViewItem

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Originally Posted by DansYellow66
Here is a good example of some hood fit problems. Pretty car otherwise.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-...QQcmdZViewItem

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Judging by the low hood center and the headlamp assembly alignment, that front end is a patch quilt.
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So what is the best fix - have the body shop rework the existing front clip or graft on a repro front clip? Either way it doesn't sound cheap.
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If the hood is less than a quarter of an inch higher than the nose and it's even across the front (not like the ebay car), IMO the hinge mod will handle it. You can replace the hinges at repaint/repair time, or just put shims under them then.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by magicv8
Judging by the low hood center and the headlamp assembly alignment, that front end is a patch quilt.
My hood looks way worse than that one, 1/4" higher than the nose all the way across.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by easyflyer65
My hood looks way worse than that one, 1/4" higher than the nose all the way across.
Your inner fenders or aprons is what determines the height of your hood in relation to the outer fenders and headlight panel as they are bonded to each other on the sides. The headlight panel is bonded to a steel crossmember across the front. If your hood is high to the headlight panel AND the front of the fenders, seems to me you could take the easy way out and do some surgery on your hinges. I believe the alternative is to break loose the bonding of the inner fenders and relocate them. Not an easy or cheap job.

If your hood is high to the headlight panel and flush to the fenders, you're going to have to do some surgery on the exterior body panels. Not cheap and no way I know to shortcut it.

That E-bay car front end was a mess, wasn't it?
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I'd hate to say it but it looks better then mine, my front end is WAY out of alignment. I guess I'm going to the body shop next winter...
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