ARE WE FREEEEKN DONE BEATING THIS DEAD HORSE AGAIN......read all the boards ..pick what you need from them then go play with your cars and be happy.....some like to look at them ..some like to wax them some like to drive the heck out of them....whatever floats your boat ..but this subject time and time again is kind of weird.... I did belong to NCRS when I first got my car ...then I said..its really not for me...I hang with hot rodders....vette people....car people in general...its all good people.....dont let the small stuff worry you..enjoy life its way to damn short to get worked up about a bunch of letters...NCRS or ......forum. ok im done..time for a cocktail....

 

The NCRS could have been the biggest and most influential car group ever. If they had changed their focus years ago and made it the “N Chevy RS”. Different divisions for 55-57, 58-64 and 65-72 Chevys. The inclusion of all those groups with the same insistence of quality and originality that is applied to Corvettes would have been huge. The current exclusionary thinking could lead to a smaller and smaller membership as the cars and people they include, decline. They should not reduce their standards. I’m sure that the constant attention to original cars has nudged many racers and street rodders to chose other models, saving many a Corvette. It must also be mentioned that the NCRS has been partly responsible for the increased monetary value of older Corvettes. I have never been a member as my interests differ from theirs. I remember when I first heard about how someone lost points in a show somewhere. He had the wrong color battery caps. Most of us thought it was kind of funny. Not so funny now, especially to the guys that pulled off that stupid FI, dumped in the trash and put on a big Holley.

 

Many of those people, and some even over here really need to get a life!

 

Excellent idea, Ed.

NCRS has beaten this idea of the electronic Driveline vs. First Class Mail vs. ??? for years.

Personally, I rarely buy anything from Driveline ads, but many others do. Chuck

 

I read a brief article in the "Restorer" on the subject of C2 louvered splash vents to decrease cabin heat. Particularly for a C3 and C2 car without A/C in July. Sounded like a great idea so I contacted the author last winter. He very kindly had a set made for me based on his patterns. A very nice gesture.

With some enthusiasm for the hobby I posted a scanned version of the article here before the summer 2007 arrived. I was immediately chastised off-line for publishing NCRS material in an open forum. Being a little slow I thought NCRS meant preserving, and driving, Corvettes not just pulling them up to shows on trailers. I was very surprised for being a person who just wanted to share a tip??

So blast away, here is the article.



BYW, Arland. They do work. My 1967 Coupe is cooler this summer. You did good.

 

My original post was to guage opinions of the value of open forums like Corvette Forum and others compared to the NCRS. In my opinion I gain much more usable information here.

I also wanted to see what readers thought about the NCRS closing access to their tech board.

I would like to comment on a few of the responses I've read...

1) "The Driveline".

The NCRS guys are worried to death that a non-member might be able to read a classified ad for a Corvette item and maybe even purchase that item.

What this means to me... while they claim to be promoting Corvette restoration they are actually hindering it. They are saying that regular (non-worthy) people should not be able to buy quality parts for their Corvettes. They would rather protect their little club than truly allow Corvettes to be restored.

2) "The NCRS guys don't use computers".

Well, boo f'n hoo. They probably don't use telephones or ride in them new-fangled aer-o-planes either.

3) "NCRS has created all these great repro parts".

I argue that NCRS does not help the reproduction parts supply. They hate reproduction parts. And looking at any other collectible cars you can find tons and tons of beautiful quality reproduction parts. Look What Dan-Chuk has done for the 55-57 Bel Air. (They don't have an NCRS for '57 Chevys)

4) "Value of our cars".

In the last decade, Camaro and Mopar prices have kicked our collective butts. (And they don't have an NCRS for Camaros, either).

I don't hate the NCRS but I have to laugh at their self importance while watching them strangle themselves.

 

Paul
I sure wish i could find someone down here in Florida that could do that for my 62 splash pans... (i've looked, even wrote the guy that did yours...)
Bill

 

To all the above...but NCRS seems as though it will always have viability as long as statements like "NCRS TOP FLIGHT" pulls in an extra $10 or 20K for a seller.

 

I said something similar in C3 Gen a few weeks ago - I feel that the extremely vocal Holy Church of the Matching Number has hurt overall Corvette prices more than anything. You don't see the Mustang Thoroughbred guys chastising the rodders for destroying a classic Mustang...

 

I am a member of long standing, don't read the board, don't go to maybe 1 event every 5 years, but like the magazine and appreciate the work many have done over the years to make the hobby better and the rest of us informed. Those who don't like the ncrs, don't join, don't look at the board and
GET YOURSELF A LIFE, as many mothers used to say and many here and other places should heed: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. There is a place for every board and everyone, frequent only the ones the fit you and leave the others to their own ways. nuff said. peace be with you.

 

I guess your mother never told you.......

 

I'm an NCRS member. I love this forum. In the end, all of this is pretty much bull pucky.

Just drive'em.

 

You make some VERY good points with your reply. But as a member I do not see a very sustainable future for the NCRS. The old time members are a rough crowd and unless the orginization can attract young men and women into it's ranks it's gonna fold. Membership dues are down and the number of C-1 to C-3 and C-4 cars that are able to be restored correctly by a younger crowd is simply not there. Don't get me wrong, I love the NCRS, but the amount of concern about the future by the cranky old timers is nil, and I've seen it declining over the years. We're all getting older, I'm 57 and save for a handful of truly enthusiastic members who welcome newcomers at the meets and judging events, I haven't seen any interest by the current membership to enlist the young people into our group. There arn't even any C-1 to C-3 cars avilable that are items worth restoring left out there. almost all are already in the hands of member or dealers who want 50 grand for something in boxes or so shabby it's got to be completely restored. the rest are garage queens that are never driven or even see sunlight. Please remember I'm not speaking about all, just most. any club or orginization that can't encourge and welcome new members is doomed. It's an elite club and conducts itself as such. With Gasoline costing $3 to 4 dollars a gallon, and not to mention the ricers catching all the attention, what other areas does the NCRS have to encourge young people to join?

 

I applaud your wisdom, sir .

I belong to to NCRS and also read/post on the CF. spend more time here on the forum but appreciate both for what they are. If I didn't enjoy them I just wouldn't participate. This is my hobby/passion I only do it for fun .

Charlie

 

I was SHOCKED when I read this!............... There are good deals in the driveline?


Actually, I would see nothing wrong with both a general classified section online, and a "Members Only" section as well. The member makes it available to whichever he wants- his buddies or the general public. After all, it is a club! The Chevelle website I frequent does it this way and I have no problem with it. (I am not a member there, but I could be!)

Rich

 

Bull pucky? now that's a little harsh don't you think?

 

See new thread
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1790096

 

 

OK, I will.

IMO the article is as old as the thought. My car came with the shields removed by previous owners to promote cooling. After making the mistake of reinstalling them, I removed them in TX while on Power Tour, so the A-C could cope with the heat. Since then I replaced them with aluminum heat shields, lighter, cooler pass way more air under ther car.

 

I know a guy over here in Ocala that used to have a louver press. I'm not sure if he still has it, but I'll check the next time I see him.