Closing threads
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Le Mans Master
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Closing threads
Ok, I finally have to say something which ticks me off. John's thread was not a bash on the site. He was saying his goodbye's. People were commenting how useful his information was in the past on CF.
I noticed the administrator closed the thread siimply stating please use the proper threads to make complaints. He was not complaining simply stating the fact he is leaving this site.
WTF, why close the thread? I am not trying to start anything nor trying to get banned from the site.
Now, I understand why people are fed up with it.
I noticed the administrator closed the thread siimply stating please use the proper threads to make complaints. He was not complaining simply stating the fact he is leaving this site.
WTF, why close the thread? I am not trying to start anything nor trying to get banned from the site.
Now, I understand why people are fed up with it.
Melting Slicks
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The comment by the moderator on John M's thread and closing it out makes it seem that neither IB or the moderators care if people leave this forum to go to another location. I would ask them, "What happens to the forum if everyone leaves?" The less traffic you have on a forum the less useful it is. According to what I read from John's thread I did not get the sense that he was griping about the ads. He was simply saying he did not like what the new positions were from IB and the moderators on what was acceptable and what was not that caused people to get banished from the forum for a period of time and therefore had decided to leave volunteerily.
Steve
Steve
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From: The problem is all inside your head she said to me.
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WTF, why close the thread? I am not trying to start anything nor trying to get banned from the site.
Now, I understand why people are fed up with it.[/QUOTE]
I did not even get to respond and say so long. It was already closed.
WTF, why close the thread? I am not trying to start anything nor trying to get banned from the site.
Now, I understand why people are fed up with it.[/QUOTE]
I did not even get to respond and say so long. It was already closed.
Heel & Toe
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Good advice gone elsewhere
I agree. John was not complaining about the ads. He wasn't even complaining about how he was being treated. It was how others were being treated that made him leave. Furthermore, he did not want to break the rules and post where he was going. A gentlemen to the end.
It took me so long to find this site that I am sad to know everyone is now leaving.
The thread was closed before I could say goodbye also
Scott
It took me so long to find this site that I am sad to know everyone is now leaving.
The thread was closed before I could say goodbye also
Scott
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Sorry, just have to weigh in ever so briefly here. I am not looking for a ban either.
CF - you are blowing it; you have been receiving calm feedback and instead of responding with "we're sorry, and here's how we will do better" you have simply defended past actions and then ended the discussion. The result is increasing dissatisfaction.
You are a business now, you might want to start thinking like one. At my company, if we were receiving all of this feedback from the employees-customers-whatever and we ignored it like this, we'd get what we deserved - a dying brand / enterprise. I don't wish that, at all, for the CF, at least not for the C1-C2 section.
By the way, I have personally vigorously defended the CF over the years on many other forums when it has been bashed, in my posts on the NCRS TF, on VHs, and certainly on the CAC. I wouldn't be able to that today, unless things change.
CF - you are blowing it; you have been receiving calm feedback and instead of responding with "we're sorry, and here's how we will do better" you have simply defended past actions and then ended the discussion. The result is increasing dissatisfaction.
You are a business now, you might want to start thinking like one. At my company, if we were receiving all of this feedback from the employees-customers-whatever and we ignored it like this, we'd get what we deserved - a dying brand / enterprise. I don't wish that, at all, for the CF, at least not for the C1-C2 section.
By the way, I have personally vigorously defended the CF over the years on many other forums when it has been bashed, in my posts on the NCRS TF, on VHs, and certainly on the CAC. I wouldn't be able to that today, unless things change.
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Playing Devil's Advocate, it's got to get old to continuously read about this person and that person who feels the need to "take a stand" and leave the Forum. It's not just about saying goodbye, it's about making a very public display about it, complete with all the snide remarks about the site that go along with it. (not by the OP, but by the replies)
This has nothing to do with John or anyone else, but really, must we have a farewell thread of multiple pages rehashing IB and the ad issues ad infititum? We get it, some people are so affected by this that they must leave. I for one am not particularly surprised that mods just lock them up after awhile.
It's disingenuous to pretend threads like that do not bring with them the inevitable debate about CF that has been beaten to death around here.
I miss helpful people like John as much as anyone, but the repititous debates that come with the very public farewells are probably not a positive.
This has nothing to do with John or anyone else, but really, must we have a farewell thread of multiple pages rehashing IB and the ad issues ad infititum? We get it, some people are so affected by this that they must leave. I for one am not particularly surprised that mods just lock them up after awhile.
It's disingenuous to pretend threads like that do not bring with them the inevitable debate about CF that has been beaten to death around here.
I miss helpful people like John as much as anyone, but the repititous debates that come with the very public farewells are probably not a positive.
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It's disingenuous to pretend threads like that do not bring with them the inevitable debate about CF that has been beaten to death around here.
I miss helpful people like John as much as anyone, but the repititous debates that come with the very public farewells are probably not a positive.
I miss helpful people like John as much as anyone, but the repititous debates that come with the very public farewells are probably not a positive.
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Playing Devil's Advocate, it's got to get old to continuously read about this person and that person who feels the need to "take a stand" and leave the Forum. It's not just about saying goodbye, it's about making a very public display about it, complete with all the snide remarks about the site that go along with it. (not by the OP, but by the replies)
This has nothing to do with John or anyone else, but really, must we have a farewell thread of multiple pages rehashing IB and the ad issues ad infititum? We get it, some people are so affected by this that they must leave. I for one am not particularly surprised that mods just lock them up after awhile.
It's disingenuous to pretend threads like that do not bring with them the inevitable debate about CF that has been beaten to death around here.
I miss helpful people like John as much as anyone, but the repititous debates that come with the very public farewells are probably not a positive.
This has nothing to do with John or anyone else, but really, must we have a farewell thread of multiple pages rehashing IB and the ad issues ad infititum? We get it, some people are so affected by this that they must leave. I for one am not particularly surprised that mods just lock them up after awhile.
It's disingenuous to pretend threads like that do not bring with them the inevitable debate about CF that has been beaten to death around here.
I miss helpful people like John as much as anyone, but the repititous debates that come with the very public farewells are probably not a positive.
point was missed by a country mile.
No one is referring to the Dale ads, etc. The issue now is how members of the forum are being treated, censored, moderated, whatever, which is something quite new and apart from any ad campaign.
Finally, there is tremendous value in an exit interview, provided the company listens and takes notice of the information being provided.
Burning Brakes
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It used to be pretty rare that anybody really got in trouble in C1/C2. This place was MasterDave's beat, and I think that at least had something to do with it. Where is he these days?
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point was missed by a country mile.
No one is referring to the Dale ads, etc. The issue now is how members of the forum are being treated, censored, moderated, whatever, which is something quite new and apart from any ad campaign.
Finally, there is tremendous value in an exit interview, provided the company listens and takes notice of the information being provided.
No one is referring to the Dale ads, etc. The issue now is how members of the forum are being treated, censored, moderated, whatever, which is something quite new and apart from any ad campaign.
Finally, there is tremendous value in an exit interview, provided the company listens and takes notice of the information being provided.
Well said.
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point was missed by a country mile.
No one is referring to the Dale ads, etc. The issue now is how members of the forum are being treated, censored, moderated, whatever, which is something quite new and apart from any ad campaign.
Finally, there is tremendous value in an exit interview, provided the company listens and takes notice of the information being provided.
No one is referring to the Dale ads, etc. The issue now is how members of the forum are being treated, censored, moderated, whatever, which is something quite new and apart from any ad campaign.
Finally, there is tremendous value in an exit interview, provided the company listens and takes notice of the information being provided.
However, I don't want my post to be misconstrued into the thought that I'm taking the unpopular side, although it already has. I'm just saying most of this stuff has been said already.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Norcal CA
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point was missed by a country mile.
No one is referring to the Dale ads, etc. The issue now is how members of the forum are being treated, censored, moderated, whatever, which is something quite new and apart from any ad campaign.
Finally, there is tremendous value in an exit interview, provided the company listens and takes notice of the information being provided.
No one is referring to the Dale ads, etc. The issue now is how members of the forum are being treated, censored, moderated, whatever, which is something quite new and apart from any ad campaign.
Finally, there is tremendous value in an exit interview, provided the company listens and takes notice of the information being provided.
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From: Dove Mountain Arizona
With all the griping lately maybe my mind's gone....but physically I'm still here! Listen up guys, not everyone is leaving the CF. Some are and it's their right if they're not happy here. I wish they'd stay really. I'm confused though, this is a CORVETTE related forum with rules. We've read them and most abide by them. When there are multiple/duplicate/mod bashing/constant whining/complaining posts that are especially NOT vette related.....they are deleted/moved/locked etc. That's it, it's the way it works. Now start talking vettes again dammit......