C1 & C2 Corvettes General C1 Corvette & C2 Corvette Discussion, Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Project Builds, Restorations

loud sidepipes

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 16, 2007 | 03:32 PM
  #41  
mid-year crisis's Avatar
mid-year crisis
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 407
Likes: 1
From: Bridgewater CT
Default

Originally Posted by old cars
I like the dual glass pack set up,would like to hear how that sounds.I still would like to know what is muffler of choice for rear exhaust ? I have used flow master 3 chamber on other cars and like the sound.
thanks,Daryl.
...Stay tuned to MasterDave's posts. He's in the process of altering his sidepipes with some 'glas to quiet his down a little. He should be posting again soon (I hope) with results.
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2007 | 04:00 PM
  #42  
Frankenvette 63's Avatar
Frankenvette 63
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,163
Likes: 1
From: Indiana
Default

They're sidepipes you pu__ies! They're supposed to be loud, that's the point!

The difference. . .

I'm driving my Vette with pu__ie sidepipes down the street and as I pass, people on the sidewalk say "wow look at that old Corvette".

or. . .

I'm driving my Vette with 2.5" Sweet Thunder inserts down the street and a block in front of me, people are turning, looking and pointing at the old Corvette that's coming.

Don't wimp the pipes!
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2007 | 06:11 PM
  #43  
Donny Brass's Avatar
Donny Brass
Safety Car
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,049
Likes: 134
From: St. Clair Shores MI
C2 of Year Finalist (track prepared) 2019
2017 C2 of the Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by rayvaflav
As I am still shopping for a Midyear coupe I am really set on a sidepipe car. The debate of sweet factory sidepipe sound vs. obnoxiously loud, can't hear my radio nor wife has brought out a lot of interesting solutions and modifications that I would consider. As far as having sidepipes, to me it's a step closer to the sound/look/feel of the legendary GT racing cars of the 50's and 60's (Grand Sport Corvettes, Cobras, C and D-Type Jaguars,etc.). Though they may not suitable for a 6 hour trip it does allow the mind to wander as you scream past the Hummer in the lane next to you (providing you picture that Hummer as red, with at least two camshafts and Borrani wire wheels) and if if the driver yells at you in disgust, what the hell, you can't hear him anyway !
mmmmm, sidepipes

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=52kruvp&s=1
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 10:28 AM
  #44  
MasterDave's Avatar
MasterDave
Moderator
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 7,117
Likes: 51
From: Dove Mountain Arizona
Default

Originally Posted by mid-year crisis
...Stay tuned to MasterDave's posts. He's in the process of altering his sidepipes with some 'glas to quiet his down a little. He should be posting again soon (I hope) with results.
Mine are done and installed, will post soundbite soon as my son shows me how.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:11 AM
  #45  
Kensmith's Avatar
Kensmith
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,631
Likes: 11
From: Rocklin California
Default

OK, here is my 2 cents or less opinion on sidepipes: They have the right look but the sound is like an old pickup truck with really rotten mufflers and pipes. Sorry guys, the sound is not the deep rumble of the newer Magna Flows or other LOUD DEEP exhaust systems. I really don't mind loud if it sounds good to the ears. I just think the CHAMBERED sound is not sweet to the ears. The problem in my opinion ( I know, nobody cares) is the TUNE not the loudness. My 18 year old son totally agrees. He loved the LOUD Magna Flows I have on my 32 Chevy powered Ford. He says my Corvette has a broken-down truck sound. Not cool he tells me and I agree. So, go ahead and tell me I am NUTS (I already know that by the way). PS...the crossover I added did help that anoying bark, just not enough. Flame on!
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:31 AM
  #46  
CaveCreekChump's Avatar
CaveCreekChump
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 965
Likes: 3
From: St. Charles/Cave Creek IL/AZ
Default They all sound the same? I don't think so.

Originally Posted by Kensmith
the sound is like an old pickup truck with really rotten mufflers and pipes. my Corvette has a broken-down truck sound.
I have a pretty lumpy cam and, at idle, mine sounds like a row of sweet-sounding Harleys idling. That's not the volume, so much as the rhythm of the valve timing.

Under acceleration or at speed it might be a different story.

I heard a theory once that a major component of exhaust sound is the actual operation of the valves, which is then modified by the pipes and mufflers. I have no idea about the validity of this statement.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:28 PM
  #47  
Kensmith's Avatar
Kensmith
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,631
Likes: 11
From: Rocklin California
Default

Originally Posted by CaveCreekChump
I have a pretty lumpy cam and, at idle, mine sounds like a row of sweet-sounding Harleys idling. That's not the volume, so much as the rhythm of the valve timing.

Under acceleration or at speed it might be a different story.

I heard a theory once that a major component of exhaust sound is the actual operation of the valves, which is then modified by the pipes and mufflers. I have no idea about the validity of this statement.
I have the LT-1 cam and at idle it sounds ok, especially since I added the crossover pipe. The cam has a big lopey sound which I really like.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 02:30 PM
  #48  
65Corvette's Avatar
65Corvette
Racer
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 407
Likes: 21
Default

Whenever I start to think the sidepipes on my '65 might be too loud, I go for a ride in the Cobra and decide that the Corvette pipes are just right.

Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 03:55 PM
  #49  
red70stingray's Avatar
red70stingray
Pro
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 654
Likes: 0
From: Crusing the roads of the great USA
Default

Originally Posted by Kensmith
OK, here is my 2 cents or less opinion on sidepipes: They have the right look but the sound is like an old pickup truck with really rotten mufflers and pipes. Sorry guys, the sound is not the deep rumble of the newer Magna Flows or other LOUD DEEP exhaust systems. I really don't mind loud if it sounds good to the ears. I just think the CHAMBERED sound is not sweet to the ears. The problem in my opinion ( I know, nobody cares) is the TUNE not the loudness. My 18 year old son totally agrees. He loved the LOUD Magna Flows I have on my 32 Chevy powered Ford. He says my Corvette has a broken-down truck sound. Not cool he tells me and I agree. So, go ahead and tell me I am NUTS (I already know that by the way). PS...the crossover I added did help that anoying bark, just not enough. Flame on!
Magna flows??? Yeah.. my neighbor put them on his minivan!!
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 05:49 PM
  #50  
RUSS OBLENES's Avatar
RUSS OBLENES
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Lynn Ma.
Default

Originally Posted by Tom E.
Blum, Blum, Blum, Blum, Blum, Blum, Blum, Blum, Blum, Blum...

Youthtube is a technological marvel I have yet to master. (I think you may be confusing me with the C6 crowd).

However, I do know a buddy who is always screwing around with that new fangled camera/computer stuff and I'll see if I can get it him to come over & show me how to do it.

Unfortunately, they are predicting a bunch of snow around here this weekend, and Old Yeller really don't much like firing up & going outside her warm doghouse when the weather is cold & wet, so we'll see....but maybe we can do it in the garage & it'll sound OK (assuming we don't die from carbon monoxide).
great looking car Tom. Your muffler shop did a nice job. I have a friend that did the same thing on a 76 that he had put a big block in. It did help some. It wasn't quiet, but it was better than the chambered pipe.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 06:06 PM
  #51  
Kensmith's Avatar
Kensmith
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,631
Likes: 11
From: Rocklin California
Default

Originally Posted by red70stingray
Magna flows??? Yeah.. my neighbor put them on his minivan!!
Obviously you have never experienced a straight through high performance muffler from them. Would add 10 to 15 HP over these chambered. But, you go ahead and put them on YOUR MINI-VAN
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 06:33 PM
  #52  
red70stingray's Avatar
red70stingray
Pro
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 654
Likes: 0
From: Crusing the roads of the great USA
Default

I have experienced them, and when the car show is over and everyone starts there car, it's all you here!! And when a vette with side pipes starts up you can here it over all the others.... Chambered exhaust ... why??? Because it's all part of the corvette experience!!! Lemme check to see if e bay is now selling magna flows for lawnmowers!!!
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 07:18 PM
  #53  
Kensmith's Avatar
Kensmith
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,631
Likes: 11
From: Rocklin California
Default

Just for your information, I know you have not experienced them. I can tell by your comments. Do your homework before making uneducated comments. Magna Flow is one of the best hi pro systems available. They are not like Flo-Masters that cause turbulence for sound only. They are a straight through system. Educate yourself and check their web site or ask others for opinions. I have built a few hot rods in my day and they are by far the best performing and sounding system I have had the pleasure of using. No, I have not built lawn mower motors like you so sorry, you have the advantage over me there
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 07:54 PM
  #54  
CaveCreekChump's Avatar
CaveCreekChump
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 965
Likes: 3
From: St. Charles/Cave Creek IL/AZ
Default Magna-flows can't be better than...

CHERRY BOMBS!

Can they?


I just bought a pair for another project with a 350 Chevy; can't wait to fire it up.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2007 | 08:23 PM
  #55  
Kensmith's Avatar
Kensmith
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,631
Likes: 11
From: Rocklin California
Default

Originally Posted by CaveCreekChump
CHERRY BOMBS!

Can they?


I just bought a pair for another project with a 350 Chevy; can't wait to fire it up.
Let us hear them !!!
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2007 | 09:19 AM
  #56  
Tom E.'s Avatar
Tom E.
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,864
Likes: 5
From: OZ City, Kansas, The Land of AHHHHHHS!
Default

Originally Posted by RUSS OBLENES
great looking car Tom. Your muffler shop did a nice job. I have a friend that did the same thing on a 76 that he had put a big block in. It did help some. It wasn't quiet, but it was better than the chambered pipe.
Thankyou, Russ. As soon as the snow melts off the driveway, I'll fire her up and get those side pipes to purrrrrrrrrrrrrrr; and then I'll figure out how to post it on Youtube.
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2007 | 09:57 AM
  #57  
CaveCreekChump's Avatar
CaveCreekChump
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 965
Likes: 3
From: St. Charles/Cave Creek IL/AZ
Default

Originally Posted by Kensmith
Let us hear them !!!
For a variety of reasons, I won't be able to do that until after this thread goes belly up.

This seems to be a popular subject, so listen for those Cherry Bombs next spring.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To loud sidepipes

Old Dec 18, 2007 | 12:09 PM
  #58  
MasterDave's Avatar
MasterDave
Moderator
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 7,117
Likes: 51
From: Dove Mountain Arizona
Default

Here's my 2.25" Sweet Thunders, modified to 3.25" OD with glas-pak'd materiel installed. No cross over installed yet.





Reply
Old Dec 18, 2007 | 01:33 PM
  #59  
old cars's Avatar
old cars
Thread Starter
Heel & Toe
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Houston Tx
Default

Ken,
I put 3 inch exhaust with an h- pipe and 3 chamber flow masters on my GSX and camaro both sounded great,nice idle and good sound when accelerating.I am going to keep the side pipes on for now.Hopefully someone will find a good fix for the sound issues.
Daryl.
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2007 | 02:33 PM
  #60  
Kensmith's Avatar
Kensmith
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,631
Likes: 11
From: Rocklin California
Default

Dave,

The sound is much better when the RPM goes up. I think you are on to something here. Maybe the crossover will help the popping at idle. Would like to see how it performs on the road and if it limits the high RPMs? Much better sound though when you rev it up a little. How do you like it? Sound better to you or the same?
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:19 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-1
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE