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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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I replaced my tach cable and the steel (small) gear inside the generator drive unit. Tach worked perfect for a while but now doesn't go below about 1200 RPM (even with motor off) but works above that when I rev it. The only two things left that haven't been replaced are the tach itself and the nylon (large) drive gear.

I have a new one but didn't replace it because I couldn't get the old one off its spindle even after removing the left-hand threaded nut. Is this a press fit or is there something I don't know ?
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I will guarantee you that the gear is NOT the problem.

Pulling the instrument cluster isn't that big of a deal, just tag all the gauge wire with tags prior to undoing them. Geta pillow for your head, don't attempt with a hangover.

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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BTW, get your speedo rebuilt at the same time. Sure as the sun rises in the east, your speedo will go out within a few months of having the tach rebuilt if you don't.

You don't have to ask me how I know this.

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Might be a good time to look at your under dash wiring harness and replace it also if needed, since you have all the cluster conenctions unhooked. New instruments bulbs, too.

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Thank you to AZDoug for demonstrating how easily simple projects can turn into full-blown restorations

No harm intended AZDoug, just noting 3 posts in a row that grew in scope.

You are right though - if I'm pulling my instrument cluster out, I'm restoring my dash area.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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Yeah - I may as well paint the car since I'm fixing the tach. Sheesh..
Every time I touch something I have 'scope creep' ...

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Yeah - I may as well paint the car since I'm fixing the tach. Sheesh..
Every time I touch something I have 'scope creep' ...

Frank
You know, if you are going to paint the car, now's a great time to send all the chrome and stainless out. In fact, you might as well pull the body so the painters can clean the underside and you can do the chassis.

Chassis - hey this would be an ideal reason to go with an SRIII chassis with a modern drive train...
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You know, if you are going to paint the car, now's a great time to send all the chrome and stainless out. In fact, you might as well pull the body so the painters can clean the underside and you can do the chassis.

Chassis - hey this would be an ideal reason to go with an SRIII chassis with a modern drive train...
While I'm at it I'll fix the economy and end the war in Iraq..
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Originally Posted by fdreano
While I'm at it I'll fix the economy and end the war in Iraq..
please......
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Originally Posted by fdreano
While I'm at it I'll fix the economy and end the war in Iraq..
Only if you have time.

But seriously, don't let the tach problem get you down. I know how it feels to have a new car with a ton of projects, many of them you didn't expect. But a year down the road you'll have forgotten about all of the hassle, and instead will have even more pride of ownership because of the time you've invested into improving it.
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Hang in there Frank....with these cars we will always have a checklist of things to get to. At least on these you can actually work on them.

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Frank, I feel your pain. Still gotta be more fun than a "Stang".

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Well - thanks for all of the encouragement folks; but believe me -- after 5 months of wrestling with this car: mystery cam, fouled plugs, distributor problems, burst radiator hose, bad voltage regulator, running out of oil and carb fires, its all coming together.

I drove it for 2 hours today around town and it is running superbly....at this point a 'sticky' tach is just a nuisance.....but a nuisance nonetheless.
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LOL hang in there....I have only owned mine since december. I have already had to rebuild the generator, replace the battery, put in a new tstat and now my heater core and heater control valve. Im thinking god I love this car when its in my garage and not in someone elses getting fixed But they sure are fun to drive!
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Originally Posted by fdreano
While I'm at it I'll fix the economy and end the war in Iraq..
Frank for president, Frank for president, Frank for president

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LOL hang in there....I have only owned mine since december. I have already had to rebuild the generator, replace the battery, put in a new tstat and now my heater core and heater control valve. Im thinking god I love this car when its in my garage and not in someone elses getting fixed But they sure are fun to drive!
i have often wondered if all this stuff was ready to go bad and thats why the previous owner sold the car, or if it headed south all at once because the car sat for years and was never driven.

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Originally Posted by fdreano
Yeah - I may as well paint the car since I'm fixing the tach. Sheesh..
Every time I touch something I have 'scope creep' ...

Frank
Actually, I was ging to make two more posts, one about pulling the windshield frame and having the brightwork refinish as long as the cluster and wiring was out, and another about painting the car since the windshield frame was off....

but I didn't want to pile too much stuff on at once.

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And, since you have to pull the steering wheel to remove the cluster, don't forget to replace the turn signal switch and lube up the cancelling mechanism.

Deburr the square hole the signal switch wires escape the steering colume from, use a dremel or fine file, the wires will pull easier.

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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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Well I looked at the ST-12 and its just removing some wires and a few screws to get the cluster out. I bet I can take it out and R&R the tachometer at night and all those other components waiting to fail will still be asleep and won't even know what happened.

P.S. Not interested in the Prez job - I retired as a Federal senior exec out of Wash DC (known as the breakfast club - fruits, flakes and nuts) and couldn't put it behind me fast enuf.
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Originally Posted by fdreano
Well I looked at the ST-12 and its just removing some wires and a few screws to get the cluster out.
When I disassembled my 62 for restoration in 1981, I used the ST-12.

I remember the instructions were something like:
1) Disconnect battery
2) Disconnect all wires
3) Remove cluster screws
4) Remove cluster

Sure, that's all, just disconnect all the wires, it's only 1 of 4 steps, how hard can it be?

Well those wires are not plugged into the instruments like on later model cars. Oh no, each wire terminal slips over a stud, and then a little tiny nut that you can't turn very much, threads onto the stud to hold the wire in place.

The second time I removed my cluster it was a breeze because I had the right tools.

Just make sure you've got a set of small wrenches or sockets for accessing those nuts.
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