C2 steering and suspension upgrades but don't break the bank!
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My street cars are a 2007 z51 and a track suspended BMW M3 so I like serious suspensions. On my 66 coupe, I am running the VBP dual mount rear monospring along with the monospring set up at the front. Springs set at #3 of 4 firmnesss positions, firm not harsh. Street alignment per VBP specs for autocross. Placed in top 3rd of all cars in Evansville autocross at 2007 Hot Rod Power Tour - with manual steering and 245/45x17s on 17x8s. Currently adding a VBP Rack Attack rack n pinion power kit which has been designed with heavier brackets etc to deal with problems found in other brands. VBP techs have been great in helping dial in suspension, including teling me NOT to buy a rear sway bar when using the dual mount spring.
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Dick and his team at Guldstrand Motorsports in Burbank, California have worked on thousands of C2's since 1963. Street, race or anything in between they have the parts and advice to get the most out of the stock layout.
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Ken;
I got my car yestereday. The 17" TT IIs are on. New stock/standard springs and Bilstiens front and rear. Adj. rear strut rods. Wow does the car drive better than before.
I have not driven a mid year in some time, but this is my third one. I recalled the feeling you described in the when going over a bump etc. I waited to say anything until my car was done.
I know what you are referring to. That is the way they always have been. I'm not an engineer, not by a long shot; but I sense that is just the suspension design. I would think a stiffer spring would reduce the feeling. However I think if you stiffen the spring at one end, you should do both ends.
Rob
I got my car yestereday. The 17" TT IIs are on. New stock/standard springs and Bilstiens front and rear. Adj. rear strut rods. Wow does the car drive better than before.
I have not driven a mid year in some time, but this is my third one. I recalled the feeling you described in the when going over a bump etc. I waited to say anything until my car was done.
I know what you are referring to. That is the way they always have been. I'm not an engineer, not by a long shot; but I sense that is just the suspension design. I would think a stiffer spring would reduce the feeling. However I think if you stiffen the spring at one end, you should do both ends.
Rob
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Ken;
Wheels are 4" backspace and 7" wide. 8" is too wide for the front but will work in the rear. I just did not want to fiddle with two different wheel sizes. Check the threads under FAQ's on TT wheels for the discussion.
Tires are 245/50 x17. Some people go with 45's, but I wanted a bit more sidewall for ride comfort. I also stayed away from run flats for the same reason, they drive like rocks I'm told. Also I wanted the tire diameter as close as possible to original. These are about 1 inch smaller in diameter, but fill the wheel wells nicely. The speedo is off though, and 45's should make that worse.
Rob
Wheels are 4" backspace and 7" wide. 8" is too wide for the front but will work in the rear. I just did not want to fiddle with two different wheel sizes. Check the threads under FAQ's on TT wheels for the discussion.
Tires are 245/50 x17. Some people go with 45's, but I wanted a bit more sidewall for ride comfort. I also stayed away from run flats for the same reason, they drive like rocks I'm told. Also I wanted the tire diameter as close as possible to original. These are about 1 inch smaller in diameter, but fill the wheel wells nicely. The speedo is off though, and 45's should make that worse.
Rob
#28
Le Mans Master
Hi Ken
I am with those who recommend a rear composite mono spring but there is one more thing
You have switched to larger rims that means less sidewall and much more "shock" transmitted from energy to the mass that you sit in. With less sidewall rollover you will handle corners better but without a modern suspension to go with your modern rim diameter you cannot get the ride that cars with big rims get with modern suspensions.
But do you really want a C2 sitting on a C5 plus spend all the money to get that? C2 suspensions were designed to operate on 15 inch rims no matter what the individual owners taste on appearance may be
An example would be my car running DR's on 15 inch rims is one thing but if I switched to DR's on 17 or 18 inch rims and then did launches.......... my rear suspension and drivetrain parts would in no time would be destroyed and looking like John Z's picture with half shafts all twisted up.
You made a move for looks with some handling improvements and I think your wheels look pretty nice but there are always more tradeoffs than what the salesman tell us
just my .02
Doug
I am with those who recommend a rear composite mono spring but there is one more thing
You have switched to larger rims that means less sidewall and much more "shock" transmitted from energy to the mass that you sit in. With less sidewall rollover you will handle corners better but without a modern suspension to go with your modern rim diameter you cannot get the ride that cars with big rims get with modern suspensions.
But do you really want a C2 sitting on a C5 plus spend all the money to get that? C2 suspensions were designed to operate on 15 inch rims no matter what the individual owners taste on appearance may be
An example would be my car running DR's on 15 inch rims is one thing but if I switched to DR's on 17 or 18 inch rims and then did launches.......... my rear suspension and drivetrain parts would in no time would be destroyed and looking like John Z's picture with half shafts all twisted up.
You made a move for looks with some handling improvements and I think your wheels look pretty nice but there are always more tradeoffs than what the salesman tell us
just my .02
Doug
#29
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My street cars are a 2007 z51 and a track suspended BMW M3 so I like serious suspensions. On my 66 coupe, I am running the VBP dual mount rear monospring along with the monospring set up at the front. Springs set at #3 of 4 firmnesss positions, firm not harsh. Street alignment per VBP specs for autocross. Placed in top 3rd of all cars in Evansville autocross at 2007 Hot Rod Power Tour - with manual steering and 245/45x17s on 17x8s. Currently adding a VBP Rack Attack rack n pinion power kit which has been designed with heavier brackets etc to deal with problems found in other brands. VBP techs have been great in helping dial in suspension, including teling me NOT to buy a rear sway bar when using the dual mount spring.
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Well, decided to order the composite spring from VB&P for more rear clearance since it is 1 " shorter and I am ordering it an additional 1 inch shorter. The wheels will be the new Cragar SS 610 17X8. Tires are Yokohama S-drive 225/50X17. Tire section width is just under 9 1/2" so should work with 4 1/2" Backspacing. Will probably move the rear e-brake to the top of the trailing arm. May need a spacer on the front if it rubs the frame too much on tight turns. Rear should fit fine. I'll post pics and measurements when done for others with wheel/tire combination questions.
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rack problems
I am a little leary of the Jeep box. I have always like rack and pinion. Had a Mullins Vega box in my 32 Ford and switched over to a rack system from Uni-steer and it made such a great difference. I didn't know there has been problems with the rack systems on Corvettes? Any idea of the causes for failure? Is it because of racing or just normal use?
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C2 of the Year Finalist - Modified 2020
OMG...this thread is 5 1/2 years old!
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Safety Car
I have often wondered what compels people to respond to 5 year-old thread, as if the person was still waiting for an answer!
It has been years since Ken even owned the car, or participated on this forum.
Regards, John McGraw
It has been years since Ken even owned the car, or participated on this forum.
Regards, John McGraw