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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Hey guys,
Car still won't get fire to the plugs. Let me give a run down as to what I've done and maybe someone can tell me what I've missed.

Parts that I've changed out Resistor ballast, coil, condenser,solenoid and the switch.

I've tried to hot wire the car and still nothing. The points are opening and closing. With switch on I get power at the resistor and when I crank the car over I'm getting power at the coil both sides. I took the coil wire off the distributor to see if I was getting any power from the coil (nothing).I got to be missing something. Is there a ground on the ignition circuit that I am missing.
I do want to thank everyone that has been trying to help me with this. Robert
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Did you do a resistance test on your points?
My car wouldn't start with new points.
They flunked the resistance test.
Put in another new set and it fired right up.
Good luck.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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You may check to see if the ground plate inside the dist. is not broken. This is a small black wire connecting the body of the dist. to the plate that the points sit on. Check to see if your coil wire on the neg. side is grounded. It should not be. Check your main ground from the battery to the engine. From all you said, sounds like a bad coil. If you hot wire the coil directly from the battery and the coil does not fire, then the coil is bad. Try swapping out a good coil and see if this does not solve the problem. Jerry
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tampa Jerry
You may check to see if the ground plate inside the dist. is not broken. This is a small black wire connecting the body of the dist. to the plate that the points sit on. Check to see if your coil wire on the neg. side is grounded. It should not be. Check your main ground from the battery to the engine. From all you said, sounds like a bad coil. If you hot wire the coil directly from the battery and the coil does not fire, then the coil is bad. Try swapping out a good coil and see if this does not solve the problem. Jerry
Have alraedy changed the coil.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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You should try another Distributor at this point. You need to isolate your problem. I dislike part changing diagnosis but at this point your entitled. Al W.
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Originally Posted by Paintbug
Hey guys,
Car still won't get fire to the plugs. Let me give a run down as to what I've done and maybe someone can tell me what I've missed.

Parts that I've changed out Resistor ballast, coil, condenser,solenoid and the switch.

I've tried to hot wire the car and still nothing. The points are opening and closing. With switch on I get power at the resistor and when I crank the car over I'm getting power at the coil both sides. I took the coil wire off the distributor to see if I was getting any power from the coil (nothing).I got to be missing something. Is there a ground on the ignition circuit that I am missing.
I do want to thank everyone that has been trying to help me with this. Robert
Just had a thought after re-reading your other post on the same subject and the above post asking what you have missed, but didn't see where you addressed the secondary coil wire. So if you haven't already, you might want to stick a new coil wire in there.

Dave
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Got it to fire off. It was the points. I had changed everything else. I went and got a new set cleaned the contacts and run some 600 grit across them to make sure. Put them in and she started firing. I think 61vert said to check the points and I did. they were new so I just check them to make sure they were opening and closing they were. I talked for someone local and he said he seen this 100 times. even new points can be bad or have anything on the contacts to keep them from firing to the plugs. Anyway thanks to everybody for your input. Now to the next puzzle.I'll put it in another post to get feed back.
Robert
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Next time use the HD points (28-32 oz) not the offshore products.

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Also use a quality cap & rotor w. the brass terminals such as Accel 8124.
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