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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 08:12 AM
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Are there any "tell tale" signs that a car came from the factory with side pipes?
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Yes. Check the outer frame on each side. If you see where brackets have been or are still there, then the car did not originally have side pipes. If there is no evidence of brackets, either it had sidepipes originally or someone did some real good work eliminating the evidence. Also, if the car is an AO Smith, it would not have had sidepipes.

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The splash shields, which normally had a rubber strip stapled along one edge for cars with undercar exhaust, did not have them on cars with side exhaust since the pipe would run almost right up against them.
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Originally Posted by Vet65te
The splash shields, which normally had a rubber strip stapled along one edge for cars with undercar exhaust, did not have them on cars with side exhaust since the pipe would run almost right up against them.
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Mine is original side exhaust and it had the splash shields. Where did you get that information?? Not questioning it, just wondering. When I tore my car down to rebuild back in 1979 I had to remove the splash shields and the car had been not run or licensed since 1972. Makes me believe that the shields were stock.

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There would be no evidence of ground straps to exhaust pipe on the trans cross member in radio equip cars also look for repo rear valance or exhaust pipe holes glassed in and evidence of muffler hanger straps/bolts on the rear frame section.
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Any reason why an A.O.Smith bodied car would not have been optioned with S/P?????
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Originally Posted by 66BlkBB
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Mine is original side exhaust and it had the splash shields. Where did you get that information?? Not questioning it, just wondering. When I tore my car down to rebuild back in 1979 I had to remove the splash shields and the car had been not run or licensed since 1972. Makes me believe that the shields were stock.

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Not that the splash shields would not be there, the staple holes and the rubber seals would not be there.
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Any reason why an A.O.Smith bodied car would not have been optioned with S/P?????
There are no documented cases of AOS cars ever having Side pipes.
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Originally Posted by youwish2bme
Not that the splash shields would not be there, the staple holes and the rubber seals would not be there.
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My error, I misread the previous post about the splash shields. Also, didn't JohnZ indicate that the AO Smith plant was not tooled up to produce cars with sidepipes? At least that's what I got from some of his threads on the subject.

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Originally Posted by macs65
Any reason why an A.O.Smith bodied car would not have been optioned with S/P?????
the "why" is explained well by JohnZ, who has a nice picture of the notching machine that was used to create the slight relief in the sill and sill reinforcement to provide assembly clearance for the U-nuts for the side cover attachments. They didn't have such a fixture at AO Smith.

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Regarding the lack of those rubber seals on the splash shields, I think I read it in the NCRS 'Restorer Magazine' some years ago. I've owned only one 'factory original' side pipe car, a 66 350 horse Coupe, and after reading the Restorer found that the splash shields on that car were clean with no staples or rubber seals. They figured the rubber seal would get toasted laying up against the side exhaust pipe. Not sure if all the original side pipe cars came this way or the factory 'figured it out' sometime further into the production run.
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