Hurst shifter question
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Heel & Toe
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From: Lyon
Hurst shifter question
Last week I got my car stuck between reverse and neutral, meaning I could only reverse or get back to neutral but not shift to 1,2,3 or 4. The shifter would not move sideways.
I had to go under the car to unlock this thing.
Now I can shift 1 to 2 and with a bit of push (sideway) shift to 3 and 4. I have not tried to go back to reverse in case it get stuck again ...
What's wrong with the shifter?
Thanks
I had to go under the car to unlock this thing.
Now I can shift 1 to 2 and with a bit of push (sideway) shift to 3 and 4. I have not tried to go back to reverse in case it get stuck again ...
What's wrong with the shifter?
Thanks
Pro
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From: Sugar Land Texas
Noting wrong with your shifter unles you cannot pull up on the shifter side prongs (Lack of better word) as you put it into the reverse mode
Sometimes if the lockout is not pulled all the way up on the shifter prior to puting the shifter into reverse the linkage gets jammned up Try putting it into reverse making sure that you have the lockout pins(Side Prongs) all the way up as you shift into the reverse mode I am 100% sure it will be fine
Bill
Sometimes if the lockout is not pulled all the way up on the shifter prior to puting the shifter into reverse the linkage gets jammned up Try putting it into reverse making sure that you have the lockout pins(Side Prongs) all the way up as you shift into the reverse mode I am 100% sure it will be fine
Bill
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Sorry Buffalo Bill, he's talking about a Hurst shifter, no reverse lock-out like the factory shifter.
What did you do under the car to unlock it? Usually, when a shifter acts like that, it's because the levers are not lined up. But the shouldn't go out of adjustment and not line up all of a sudden like that. Maybe one of the bushings that are on the end of the shifter rods disintegrated and fell out. Check the three shift levers sticking out of the bottom of the shifter. In neutral, they should all line up -- there's a hole in the side of the shifter body and the three rods. You should be able to insert a drill bit or similar thing into the hole and through all three rods. If not, something is out of alignment and needs adjustment.
What did you do under the car to unlock it? Usually, when a shifter acts like that, it's because the levers are not lined up. But the shouldn't go out of adjustment and not line up all of a sudden like that. Maybe one of the bushings that are on the end of the shifter rods disintegrated and fell out. Check the three shift levers sticking out of the bottom of the shifter. In neutral, they should all line up -- there's a hole in the side of the shifter body and the three rods. You should be able to insert a drill bit or similar thing into the hole and through all three rods. If not, something is out of alignment and needs adjustment.
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Heel & Toe
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From: Lyon
Hello LB66383
To unlock the shifter I moved one after the other the 3 levers on the Muncie to make sure they gear box was find. 1/neutral/2 back to neutral, 3/neutral/4 back to neutral and reverse to neutral. After that went back into the car and the shifter was OK again.
The bushing you are talking about,are they on the end gearbox side or shifter side?
The reverse rod is kind of "loose",
The 1/2 rod is nice and tight
The 3/4 rod is in between
To unlock the shifter I moved one after the other the 3 levers on the Muncie to make sure they gear box was find. 1/neutral/2 back to neutral, 3/neutral/4 back to neutral and reverse to neutral. After that went back into the car and the shifter was OK again.
The bushing you are talking about,are they on the end gearbox side or shifter side?
The reverse rod is kind of "loose",
The 1/2 rod is nice and tight
The 3/4 rod is in between
Le Mans Master
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From: Granbury Texas
There are bushings between the shift rods and the lever arms on the transmission. These non-metallic bushings wear. When they do, the situation you describe can occur. Hurst (I believe) is still in existence, and make a "kit" containing new metallic bushings/washers for your transmission to shifter arms. Not sure how much, but pretty cheap (less than a new shifter). OR....you can get a box of different thickness metal washers (shims) from any hardware store and install those so that there is "very little" play (but not "none"). NOTE: I recommend that you do ONLY one arm at a time, so you don't mix them up, or mis-install the arm. Feel free to take pictures (and post them for Forum members).
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Hurst shifter
Last week I got my car stuck between reverse and neutral, meaning I could only reverse or get back to neutral but not shift to 1,2,3 or 4. The shifter would not move sideways.
I had to go under the car to unlock this thing.
Now I can shift 1 to 2 and with a bit of push (sideway) shift to 3 and 4. I have not tried to go back to reverse in case it get stuck again ...
What's wrong with the shifter?
Thanks
I had to go under the car to unlock this thing.
Now I can shift 1 to 2 and with a bit of push (sideway) shift to 3 and 4. I have not tried to go back to reverse in case it get stuck again ...
What's wrong with the shifter?
Thanks
had a pin (looks like an allen wrench)that set through a set of holes,
then adjust the shifter rods for no slack. gives you a nice short throw.
Had to replace bushings and readjust after @4 years of hard driving.
Matched up with brass bushings at a Ace hardware store
Last edited by mayordaly; May 2, 2008 at 05:48 PM.
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The other thing that goes bad on the Hurst shifters are the large spring steel shims inside the shifter assembly, they will crack and break with age and use and they can prevent the shift lever moving from side to side, ie 2 to 3 shift if a piece is jammed.
I had to replace all three of the shims in my Competition Plus, fortunately I was able to talk the tech rep at Hurst into sending me some free shims instead of sending them my shifter for a $165 rebuild fee.
http://www.hurst-shifters.com/pdf/Rebuild_Hurst.pdf
I had to replace all three of the shims in my Competition Plus, fortunately I was able to talk the tech rep at Hurst into sending me some free shims instead of sending them my shifter for a $165 rebuild fee.
http://www.hurst-shifters.com/pdf/Rebuild_Hurst.pdf
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From: Lyon
Yep, the bushings air gone on one rod and pretty tired on the others.
But, I think I have as well the same issue as descibed by Scott; the large springs in the shifter as it's hard to move 2nd to 3rd.
I'm going to start fixing the bushings and then I'll see if I have to tear apart the shifter.
Thanks all for your feedbacks
But, I think I have as well the same issue as descibed by Scott; the large springs in the shifter as it's hard to move 2nd to 3rd.
I'm going to start fixing the bushings and then I'll see if I have to tear apart the shifter.
Thanks all for your feedbacks
Pro
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From: Sugar Land Texas
Sorry Buffalo Bill, he's talking about a Hurst shifter, no reverse lock-out like the factory shifter.
What did you do under the car to unlock it? Usually, when a shifter acts like that, it's because the levers are not lined up. But the shouldn't go out of adjustment and not line up all of a sudden like that. Maybe one of the bushings that are on the end of the shifter rods disintegrated and fell out. Check the three shift levers sticking out of the bottom of the shifter. In neutral, they should all line up -- there's a hole in the side of the shifter body and the three rods. You should be able to insert a drill bit or similar thing into the hole and through all three rods. If not, something is out of alignment and needs adjustment.
What did you do under the car to unlock it? Usually, when a shifter acts like that, it's because the levers are not lined up. But the shouldn't go out of adjustment and not line up all of a sudden like that. Maybe one of the bushings that are on the end of the shifter rods disintegrated and fell out. Check the three shift levers sticking out of the bottom of the shifter. In neutral, they should all line up -- there's a hole in the side of the shifter body and the three rods. You should be able to insert a drill bit or similar thing into the hole and through all three rods. If not, something is out of alignment and needs adjustment.
BuffaloBILL
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Buffalo Bill -- not sure what you're referring to. I have heard that Hurst makes a shifter that has a small second lever that's a reverse lockout, you have to move that second lever forward or backward (not sure which) to move the main lever into reverse. I've never seen one.
Or.....what I used to have on my Hurst....they make a bolt on lever that looks like the stock Corvette shift lever -- all chrome with a chrome **** and a spring-loaded reverse-lockout T-handle. But it doesn't really lock out reverse. You don't have to pull up the T-handle to put it in reverse, it's strictly for looks.
Or.....what I used to have on my Hurst....they make a bolt on lever that looks like the stock Corvette shift lever -- all chrome with a chrome **** and a spring-loaded reverse-lockout T-handle. But it doesn't really lock out reverse. You don't have to pull up the T-handle to put it in reverse, it's strictly for looks.
Pro
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Or.....what I used to have on my Hurst....they make a bolt on lever that looks like the stock Corvette shift lever -- all chrome with a chrome **** and a spring-loaded reverse-lockout T-handle. But it doesn't really lock out reverse. You don't have to pull up the T-handle to put it in reverse, it's strictly for looks.[/QUOTE]
THIS IS THE ONE Now I am really confused The previous owner told me he replaced the shifter handle with the Hurst so I assumed That's what I have Maybe this is a stock shifter
When I replaced my clutch about 6 weeks ago I had to remove the shifter ball and shifter prior to removing the tranny Once the Chrome ball was removed The "T" slider had a rod and it was SPRING LOADED AND I DO HAVE TO MOVE THE "T" HANDLE TO PLACE IT INTO REVERSE CAN ANYONE ELABORATE THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING TO ME
BILL
Bill
THIS IS THE ONE Now I am really confused The previous owner told me he replaced the shifter handle with the Hurst so I assumed That's what I have Maybe this is a stock shifter
When I replaced my clutch about 6 weeks ago I had to remove the shifter ball and shifter prior to removing the tranny Once the Chrome ball was removed The "T" slider had a rod and it was SPRING LOADED AND I DO HAVE TO MOVE THE "T" HANDLE TO PLACE IT INTO REVERSE CAN ANYONE ELABORATE THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING TO ME
BILL
Bill
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Buffalo, I could be wrong (haven't seen your shiftr) but I believe what you have is a STOCK (64-67) Corvette shifter. To me that sounds like what you are describing.
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"THIS IS THE ONE Now I am really confused The previous owner told me he replaced the shifter handle with the Hurst so I assumed That's what I have Maybe this is a stock shifter
When I replaced my clutch about 6 weeks ago I had to remove the shifter ball and shifter prior to removing the tranny Once the Chrome ball was removed The "T" slider had a rod and it was SPRING LOADED AND I DO HAVE TO MOVE THE "T" HANDLE TO PLACE IT INTO REVERSE CAN ANYONE ELABORATE THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING TO ME"
Bill, If you have ever raced through the gears in a Hurst Competition Plus and back to a stock shifter, you would never be confused again.
Get the complete Hurst shifter, or keep stock for "points"
When I replaced my clutch about 6 weeks ago I had to remove the shifter ball and shifter prior to removing the tranny Once the Chrome ball was removed The "T" slider had a rod and it was SPRING LOADED AND I DO HAVE TO MOVE THE "T" HANDLE TO PLACE IT INTO REVERSE CAN ANYONE ELABORATE THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING TO ME"
Bill, If you have ever raced through the gears in a Hurst Competition Plus and back to a stock shifter, you would never be confused again.
Get the complete Hurst shifter, or keep stock for "points"
Melting Slicks
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"THIS IS THE ONE Now I am really confused The previous owner told me he replaced the shifter handle with the Hurst so I assumed That's what I have Maybe this is a stock shifter
When I replaced my clutch about 6 weeks ago I had to remove the shifter ball and shifter prior to removing the tranny Once the Chrome ball was removed The "T" slider had a rod and it was SPRING LOADED AND I DO HAVE TO MOVE THE "T" HANDLE TO PLACE IT INTO REVERSE CAN ANYONE ELABORATE THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING TO ME"
Bill, If you have ever raced through the gears in a Hurst Competition Plus and back to a stock shifter, you would never be confused again.
Get the complete Hurst shifter, or keep stock for "points"
When I replaced my clutch about 6 weeks ago I had to remove the shifter ball and shifter prior to removing the tranny Once the Chrome ball was removed The "T" slider had a rod and it was SPRING LOADED AND I DO HAVE TO MOVE THE "T" HANDLE TO PLACE IT INTO REVERSE CAN ANYONE ELABORATE THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING TO ME"
Bill, If you have ever raced through the gears in a Hurst Competition Plus and back to a stock shifter, you would never be confused again.
Get the complete Hurst shifter, or keep stock for "points"
I've bought 3 Comp-Plus shifters over the years. They shift far better than the stock unit. My current 67 is the only car I have left stock, and I miss the Hurst. I'm on the 5 speed conversion fence now, so I'm waiting......
Melting Slicks
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From: Sarasota Florida
HURST Shifter
Hi
I bought a used vintage HURST shifter for my Corvette it doesnt have the reverse light mechanism So, I think it was made around 63 or 64..
It also has the stick inisde the mechanism...Unlike the newer ones where you can change the stick..Plus this one has a "curve" to it..
I had it rebuilt by HURST..I even talked to the guy that was rebuilding it...I had the stick rechromed before.. I had it rebuilt..He did a GREAT job and did not scratch my newly chromed stick..
I would spend the money and get it rebuilt...I know have a cool looking stick and crisp shifts with the HURST shifter..
The only downside is that every "wannabe" NCRS judge..Points out that "my shifter" is not original to the my car...(Yeah no kidding it says HURST on it!!!!) and it look different from the stock (T handle) one!!!
I think its cooler than the original...Plus I have and original looking 63 Corvette shifter rod that is designed to work with a new HURST shifter ..So, If I want it to look original I can do that..
Good luck!
I bought a used vintage HURST shifter for my Corvette it doesnt have the reverse light mechanism So, I think it was made around 63 or 64..
It also has the stick inisde the mechanism...Unlike the newer ones where you can change the stick..Plus this one has a "curve" to it..
I had it rebuilt by HURST..I even talked to the guy that was rebuilding it...I had the stick rechromed before.. I had it rebuilt..He did a GREAT job and did not scratch my newly chromed stick..
I would spend the money and get it rebuilt...I know have a cool looking stick and crisp shifts with the HURST shifter..
The only downside is that every "wannabe" NCRS judge..Points out that "my shifter" is not original to the my car...(Yeah no kidding it says HURST on it!!!!) and it look different from the stock (T handle) one!!!
I think its cooler than the original...Plus I have and original looking 63 Corvette shifter rod that is designed to work with a new HURST shifter ..So, If I want it to look original I can do that..
Good luck!
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John,
I've got one of the Hurst (OEM look alike) units on my shifter. It does look like the original handle but you are mistaken in saying that the T doesn't work. The T does move up and down but it doesn't do anything other than that. It is spring loaded so it pops back down when you release it. It will fool some people but anyone who has driven a Hurst will know the minute they use the shifter to switch gears.
Steve
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Sticking Shifter
You May Want To Take The Shifter Apart And Inspect It For Damage. When Re-assembling Be Sure Thatyou Adjust The Bolts That Act As Shift Lever Stops Located At The Front And Rear Of The Actual Shifter Assembly. These Bolts Act As Stops So That The Levers Do Not Travel Beyond The Normal Engagement Point Of The Side Case Pawls. If They Are Out Of Adjustment The Shifter Will Go Beyond Normal Operating Positions Making It Difficult To Find The Neutral Gate Position.
