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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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I have recently acquired a '65 equipped with a set of repro knockoff wheels. My problem is this: How do I remove the roll pins that have been installed to keep the spinners from loosening? I need to remove the wheels to do brake work and can't get the pins out. Currently they protrude about .5". Can they be driven through to the other side? Must they be pulled out? Do they have to be drilled out? These things are a pain in the a**! HELP!!!
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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Have you tried tapping the spinner a touch to take any bind off of the pins. The pins "should" pull out with pliers, but I know they can be stubborn. They won't drive out the back side. Spray them with some penetrating oil and let them soak a bit, tap the spinners with your hammer and then try to pull them out.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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Grab the pin with the pliers and pull while you tap the spinner, that works for me every time.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Once you get them out, you might give some thought to slinging them as far as you can and not put any back in there.

But, that's a story for a different day.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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If the pins are stuck the wheels where not installed correctly, but But, that's a story for a different day.
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If the pins are stuck the wheels where not installed correctly, but that's a story for a different day.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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the potential for this thread to go upwards of 100 posts is very high.

for someone to ask about spinner direction on and off.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by richbopp
the potential for this thread to go upwards of 100 posts is very high.

for someone to ask about spinner direction on and off.
And which ones go on which side.
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I ain't in it!
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Originally Posted by stingrayl76
And which ones go on which side.
and whether you are all gonna surely die if you keep using those real knock off wheels . . . .
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Originally Posted by ctjackster
and whether you are all gonna surely die if you keep using those real knock off wheels . . . .
But that's a story for a different day, too
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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if the orig owner pounded the hell out of the wheel it can crush the pin
and turn to far. it does not necessarily mean the wheel is on wrong. jim
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Originally Posted by jdk971
if the orig owner pounded the hell out of the wheel it can crush the pin
and turn to far. it does not necessarily mean the wheel is on wrong. jim
Oh Noooo
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That means the thing was put on wrong, doesn't it? Or am I missing something? The pins are an unnecessary PIA.

But again, I ain't in it!




[QUOTE=jdk971;1566231421]if the orig owner pounded the hell out of the wheel it can crush the pin
and turn to far. it does not necessarily mean the wheel is on wrong.
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The pins, as I have been lead to believe, are anti-theft, not safety pins. If the knock-offs are installed correctly and the spinners tightened properly (that's 2 things - installed correctly, as in seated the right way against the hubs and the spinners tightened correctly with the old lead thumper hammer) the wheels should be good to go - and that's with no pins at all.

Now watch the sparks fly.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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all I can say on this little topic is this: once, when I was absentmindedly removing some wheel from my 65, I was having a hell of a time breaking the KO spinner loose, and was using a big-*** lead hammer too. Gave it more action than Pamela Anderson sees on a quiet weekend, boom boom boom and still no budge, at all. Odd, says I, like it is frozen. Then I decided to double check that I had taken the pin out - nope, was still in there. And I hadn't rolled over the pin either. This episode tells me that, assuming the locating holes on the back of the wheel are not elongated (and thus, there is no ability for the wheel to wiggle back and forth under full starting-stopping roatational load), the little pin will prevent the spinner from simply loosening by itself due to simple momentum and rotational forces on it. I don't need to mark the spinner with a marker and visually check to see if it has moved; if the pin is in it ain't gonna wiggle anywhere. For all I know, even if I had left my pins out that spinners wouldn't go anywhere, given my attention to proper installation procedures; I just haven't tested that theory - my KOs are repros with the pins, why not use them?

Now I ain't sayin the little pin will keep a KO wheel on a car if the locating holes are damaged, that's different . . .
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