60 Electrical problem
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60 Electrical problem
I just bought a 60 and noticed new battery discharges with everything off and generator gets hot. I am not electrical smart. Test light on A terminal of Generator lights. There is power constant to Generator. Is Voltage regulator an issue? How do I test? Where do I start. thanks Don
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I just bought a 60 and noticed new battery discharges with everything off and generator gets hot. I am not electrical smart. Test light on A terminal of Generator lights. There is power constant to Generator. Is Voltage regulator an issue? How do I test? Where do I start. thanks Don
Order a ST-12 Shop manual for repair, but for the charging system you will need the 58 Passenger Car manual and then you might as well get the 59-60 Supplement (available at the NCRS store, among many others). http://www.ncrs.org/store/shop.cgi/p...29127585.20218
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If you have battery voltage at the generator Batt terminal when the car is not running it could be the regualtor.
Generator regulators have three coils in them. One controls the generator voltage output, one controls the current output and the other is called the 'current cutout relay'.
This is the one I would suspect is your problem.
It is designed to only let voltage flow from the generator to the battery and not the other way.
I would replace the regulator.
Generator regulators have three coils in them. One controls the generator voltage output, one controls the current output and the other is called the 'current cutout relay'.
This is the one I would suspect is your problem.
It is designed to only let voltage flow from the generator to the battery and not the other way.
I would replace the regulator.
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If you have battery voltage at the generator Batt terminal when the car is not running it could be the regualtor.
Generator regulators have three coils in them. One controls the generator voltage output, one controls the current output and the other is called the 'current cutout relay'.
This is the one I would suspect is your problem.
It is designed to only let voltage flow from the generator to the battery and not the other way.
I would replace the regulator.
Generator regulators have three coils in them. One controls the generator voltage output, one controls the current output and the other is called the 'current cutout relay'.
This is the one I would suspect is your problem.
It is designed to only let voltage flow from the generator to the battery and not the other way.
I would replace the regulator.
And as I tell all the generator-crowd....if you want to go with a solid state unit I know a gentlemen that does the conversions! Fits under original V/R housing too.Don't even think about using a solid-state alternator V/R either - they don't work for generator cars...
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1960 generator smoking
Similar experience to Don today. Started my recently purchased 1960 and let it warm up. I had replaced the battery last week. After five minutes of idiling, open the hood, the generator was smoking out of both ends. When it would not stop smoking after a few minutes after engine was turned off, I guessed it best to disconnect the battery. 30 minutes later, the generator was still hot! Wonder if the generator survived or if it can be salvaged? My mechanical skills are very limited. I can purchase a regulator or a generator and replace but that will be the extent of my abilities. Any suggestions appreciated. Gary
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Hot generator
Gary, After starting this thread and things cooled down, I disconnected and recharged battery. Also banged on regulator case. Problem is for now gone. Though the generator was very hot, guage works fine and short is gone. Wouldnt get in a hurry R&R ing Generator yet. I am putting a new regulator on probably today.
Touching battery cable to battery post will create an arc if there is a problem. Also remove negative battery cable from battery. Take a simple test light and clip one end to negative cable and the pointer on negative battery post. If it lights there is an open circut of short. Test light should not light if all is normal. I am also challenged in electrics and spelling.
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Touching battery cable to battery post will create an arc if there is a problem. Also remove negative battery cable from battery. Take a simple test light and clip one end to negative cable and the pointer on negative battery post. If it lights there is an open circut of short. Test light should not light if all is normal. I am also challenged in electrics and spelling.
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Also remove negative battery cable from battery. Take a simple test light and clip one end to negative cable and the pointer on negative battery post. If it lights there is an open circut of short. Test light should not light if all is normal. I am also challenged in electrics and spelling.
Don
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Got it fixed!!
Appreciate responding members, replaced the voltage regulator, noticed the belt needed replaced and the front bolt under the front of the generator gone. After replacing bolt, engine running smooth. The generator was not cooked at least I hope not
Thanks again
Thanks again
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You did the right thing replacing the V/R....I've had mixed luck trying to readjust them after they get to a certain age....if your generator is working OK I wouldn't worry too much. Unless the insulation is burnt off the internal windings and is causing a short those components can take more abuse than one would think.