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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:17 AM
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In today's world, I am not looking for a program that will provide a true value - that is determined what anyone will actually pay.

I am searching for a program to use to compare relative apples to apples.

Didn't Corvtte Fever have one?
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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Suggest that you start with www.nada.com under Classic Cars.

That should provide the comparison of value that you are looking for.

I believe that "what people will pay" is a function of 1) the car, 2) a person's desire for that particular car, and 3) how many people want that same car.

You might also check Barrett-Jackson results, RM Auctions, and Mecum.

My issue in looking at these results is that you cannot determine what the actual condition of the car really is.

Good luck.

P.S. Also, online auction listings and results might also be a resource.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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My departed used-car dealer Dad said often there are 3 prices for a car:

1) What the seller wants for it
2) What the buyer wants to pay for it
3) What the car finally sells for.

That's all that matters - the NADA guide is as good as anything else to get to maybe +/- 20% of value but I would sell my car tomorrow if I could get what their guide says its worth.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by fdreano
My departed used-car dealer Dad said often there are 3 prices for a car:

1) What the seller wants for it
2) What the buyer wants to pay for it
3) What the car finally sells for.

That's all that matters - the NADA guide is as good as anything else to get to maybe +/- 20% of value but I would sell my car tomorrow if I could get what their guide says its worth.
I have not seen a book or a program buy a car yet.The people that really know are the guys that are at all of the auctions/sales/swapmeets/car shows as well as the being there they are actually the ones doing the buying and selleing not just a casual observer.Who do you think has a better idea about these values Terry Michaelis or us here on the forum.I know that we are all experts here
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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Are you buying or selling??

A few of the Corvette Mags have/had Value Guides that provided "%change" over various time intervals. Is this what you're looking for? I have these in my files.

Larry
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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At a local club event last year we had a presentation from a fairly large collector car dealer in the Canton, Ohio area. He presented a series of pricing guides that he uses when looking at cars, pricing cars, and bidding on cars. Interestingly enough he uses one when he's selling, a different one when he's buying, and another when he's determining his asset value. In other words, these guides are all over the map.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SolidAxle
Interestingly enough he uses one when he's selling
That's "what do I want"

a different one when he's buying
"what should I pay"

and another when he's determining his asset value.
"what do I insure it for"
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Originally Posted by 62Jeff
That's "what do I want"


"what should I pay"


"what do I insure it for"
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The NADA is SO far off on true value it is scary. If you are trying to determine a certain cars value I would just do some research on the internet, I know everyone here says eBay isn't real prices but that is where you will be able to do the most research at one time....don't pay attention to the Buy it Now prices or whatever just do a search on what the cars have actually SOLD for. This also gives you pictures and descriptions. You can count on the car looking better in the picture than in person but with all of the "price guides" you have nothing to go off of on real world sales such as each cars description or pictures.
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Originally Posted by Sean Dunshee
The NADA is SO far off on true value it is scary. If you are trying to determine a certain cars value I would just do some research on the internet, I know everyone here says eBay isn't real prices but that is where you will be able to do the most research at one time....don't pay attention to the Buy it Now prices or whatever just do a search on what the cars have actually SOLD for. This also gives you pictures and descriptions. You can count on the car looking better in the picture than in person but with all of the "price guides" you have nothing to go off of on real world sales such as each cars description or pictures.
I agree 100%, the market is so volatile right now, any guide is obsolete before the ink dries.
I have also never found NADA to very accurate, SOLD items on Ebay would be my best indicator at this time.



Paul

PS. Real people do not buy vintage cars in the real world at Barrett Jackson prices.
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Then the multiplication factors get sort of zany...one book I just looked at in Border's said to multiply the following factors for C1 options:

30% for 2X4 bbl 245HP
35% for 2X4 bbl 270HP
40% for fuel injection.

I'm not sure my 270HP justifies 35% over a one barrel car of equal quality....it might but it seems a lot...
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Originally Posted by crw41
In today's world, I am not looking for a program that will provide a true value - that is determined what anyone will actually pay.

I am searching for a program to use to compare relative apples to apples.

Didn't Corvtte Fever have one?
When I used to subscribe to Corvett Fever, they published an annual "value guide"
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