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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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My 65 normally runs at about 160 F on a hot day, in heavy traffic stop and go it will raise to about 210- 215 once the traffic breaks it will quickly return to the 160 area.
Some of my friends say that it is running to cool, not good for the motor. Others say that this temp range is perfect and not to be concerned. I am in a colder climate area and as a result use the car between May and Oct only.

What do you guys think??

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Originally Posted by macs65
My 65 normally runs at about 160 F on a hot day, in heavy traffic stop and go it will raise to about 210- 215 once the traffic breaks it will quickly return to the 160 area.
Some of my friends say that it is running to cool, not good for the motor. Others say that this temp range is perfect and not to be concerned. I am in a colder climate area and as a result use the car between May and Oct only.

What do you guys think??
your system should run at the stat. on the road and 180 is preferred for a street engine....over 200 is no big deal in heavy slow traffic especially with the instant cool down you have.....i would check the fan belt and fan clutch and shroud sealing...maybe could drop the traffic temp a little...
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Don't know what engine you have but if a 327, then you have a real unique engine if that temp is true (confirmed with IR gun). Mine ran in the 160 range (by the gauge) and the guy I bought it from said "It always runs real cool". Except when you opened the hood after running it sure did not feel cool, and IR gun confirmed it was really running about 195. Changed out the sender, and the temp gauge got a lot more real. Too real in fact. Had to get another sender that turned out to be more accurate, played with hoses and Harrison tank cap, and got it to run in 185 range. Gauge still shows 190-200 however.

of course maybe up in Toronto you routinely have 40 degree air blowing through your radiator and that accounts for super cooling...

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Do you know what t-stat you have currently in the car? It could be a 160/165 unit. I would change it to a 180 degree unit. Also check the fan clutch and make sure it's working properly. Maybe even have the rad flushed out.

Your temps are not that bad. I would check various points under the hood with a IR gun as suggested, just to verify what the temps actually are.

Good luck but it doesn't sound like your in that bad of shape.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 65hihp
Don't know what engine you have but if a 327, then you have a real unique engine if that temp is true (confirmed with IR gun).

I think there's a fair number of members on this board that would tell you their engines run that cool also. Even without getting that hot.

One of them would be me.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 65hihp
Don't know what engine you have but if a 327, then you have a real unique engine if that temp is true (confirmed with IR gun). Mine ran in the 160 range (by the gauge) and the guy I bought it from said "It always runs real cool". Except when you opened the hood after running it sure did not feel cool, and IR gun confirmed it was really running about 195. Changed out the sender, and the temp gauge got a lot more real. Too real in fact. Had to get another sender that turned out to be more accurate, played with hoses and Harrison tank cap, and got it to run in 185 range. Gauge still shows 190-200 however.

of course maybe up in Toronto you routinely have 40 degree air blowing through your radiator and that accounts for super cooling...
It's a 327/365 with the Harrison rad and tank, 7 blade stock a/c fan (not an a/c car) 160 stat. clutch is new, temps have been confirmed with an IR gun. This car in 85 degree F weather never runs hotter than 160 in normal traffic.
I went to Woodward on Aug 15th and crossed from Ontario to Mich on the Bluewater bridge, sat in traffic for almost 1 hour getting over the bridge and at customs temps reached 210 to 215 which I thought was pretty normal, drops back as soon as you get moving.

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Do you know what t-stat you have currently in the car? It could be a 160/165 unit. I would change it to a 180 degree unit. Also check the fan clutch and make sure it's working properly. Maybe even have the rad flushed out.

Your temps are not that bad. I would check various points under the hood with a IR gun as suggested, just to verify what the temps actually are.

Good luck but it doesn't sound like your in that bad of shape.
The tstat will not control the operating temp of the motor only the temp at which the temp allows the tstat to open. Changing the tstat will have no impact on this issue.

It appears that when going down the road he is getting plenty of air through the radiator. However in traffic not enough air is being pulled through the radiator. I would highly suspect the fan clutch..

Good luck.. BTW I'll be back up in Hamilton in a week or two.. Where was that cruise in we talked about the last time I was up?
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[QUOTE=PinkVetteLady;1571256465]The tstat will not control the operating temp of the motor only the temp at which the temp allows the tstat to open. Changing the tstat will have no impact on this issue.

a 180 deg stat will open between 178-185.......this assures the engine will not go below that temperature........therefore the stat DOES control the minimum operating temperature.......,the maximum temp is controlled by the rest of the cooling system ....the t stat is always modulating, especially at cruise.....just thought i'd throw that out.....
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 10:51 PM
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Have you tried adjusting the spring on the front of your new fan clutch?
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[QUOTE=midyearvette;1571257402]
Originally Posted by PinkVetteLady
The tstat will not control the operating temp of the motor only the temp at which the temp allows the tstat to open. Changing the tstat will have no impact on this issue.

a 180 deg stat will open between 178-185.......this assures the engine will not go below that temperature........therefore the stat DOES control the minimum operating temperature.......,the maximum temp is controlled by the rest of the cooling system ....the t stat is always modulating, especially at cruise.....just thought i'd throw that out.....
I think we are in agreement here.. However it only tries to maintain the min temp. to get the motor up to operating temp. btw in the winter I have to put a piece of cardboard infront of the radiator to get the car to warm up enough to get to 180 to open the tstat... So the temp can be below the tstat temp.
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[QUOTE=PinkVetteLady;1571259698]
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I think we are in agreement here.. However it only tries to maintain the min temp. to get the motor up to operating temp. btw in the winter I have to put a piece of cardboard infront of the radiator to get the car to warm up enough to get to 180 to open the tstat... So the temp can be below the tstat temp.
yep... sounds like you have your system dialed in......
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[QUOTE=midyearvette;1571257402]
Originally Posted by PinkVetteLady
The tstat will not control the operating temp of the motor only the temp at which the temp allows the tstat to open. Changing the tstat will have no impact on this issue.

a 180 deg stat will open between 178-185.......this assures the engine will not go below that temperature........therefore the stat DOES control the minimum operating temperature.......,the maximum temp is controlled by the rest of the cooling system ....the t stat is always modulating, especially at cruise.....just thought i'd throw that out.....
That's what I was thinking of when I suggested the 180 degree stat since he thought that running at 160 degrees was possibly too cold. The higher temps in traffic are due to airflow as discussed by others.
Most of us here would be happy to have this problem.
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[QUOTE=1Sweet66;1571261587]
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That's what I was thinking of when I suggested the 180 degree stat since he thought that running at 160 degrees was possibly too cold. The higher temps in traffic are due to airflow as discussed by others.
Most of us here would be happy to have this problem.
yep....180 is ideal..some folks don't believe it but especially on a street car it's beneficial....others think 190-195 too......
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180 T-Stat and make sure your vacuum advance is connected to a full manifold source, not ported vaccum.
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There is no such thing as a mid year running to cool.
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Thanks everyone for your input, I think I will just leave it be, it works really well.
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